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marshbarn · Jun 11, 2018

All this about prices are only for 3 hours makes me laugh , who do cf think they are? i bet there are cf sales staff pizzing them selves laughing at this.
they are treating farmers like pavlovs dog , well trained.
Lets get some urea prices and pulan prices and buy that to teach those wanzers a leason

An Gof · Jun 11, 2018

Are Yara taking the pi**
33.5% Extran offered at £5 premium to Yara 34.5% Prilled N (made by CF for them)
So that makes a unit of N in Extran form 5.43% more expensive. Is it worth it?
That’s equivalent to 1.5T of Prilled N FOC on an artic load compared to Extran

David. · Jun 12, 2018

silverfox said:
Got options on urea with sulphur. Lots of different variations. How much sulphur do you put on?

I'm afraid that regardless of how it appears to pattern test, Urea/Sulphur blends will stripe regardless of what they tell you.
1st dose on in-between tramlines is only kind of fix, or so I find, but that relies on having 2 similar sized doses.

average farmer · Jun 12, 2018

David. said:
I'm afraid that regardless of how it appears to pattern test, Urea/Sulphur blends will stripe regardless of what they tell you.
1st dose on in-between tramlines is only kind of fix, or so I find, but that relies on having 2 similar sized doses.

All I’ve used this year and no stripping at 24 m

cows r us · Jun 12, 2018

A nice definition I thought: A cartel is a group of apparently independent producers whose goal is to increase their collective profits by means of price fixing, limiting supply, or other restrictive practices.

Northeastfarmer · Jun 12, 2018

Just had a phone call offering blue bag at a special price of £220 if I order this afternoon....didn’t sound that special

SilliamWhale · Jun 12, 2018

Northeastfarmer said:
Just had a phone call offering blue bag at a special price of £220 if I order this afternoon....didn’t sound that special

To me all this sort of thing and the "buy for 3 hours" definitely smacks of price fixing or at least a fear factor sales strategy.

MrNoo · Jun 12, 2018

SilliamWhale said:
To me all this sort of thing and the "buy for 3 hours" definitely smacks of price fixing or at least a fear factor sales strategy.

Yes, it's quite pathetic, my Openfield rep has been texting (along with others) non stop, "Grab it now while you can" stuff the lot of them, it gets tedious after a while, like little schoolboys wanting your sweets off you.

SilliamWhale · Jun 12, 2018

MrNoo said:
Yes, it's quite pathetic, my Openfield rep has been texting (along with others) non stop, "Grab it now while you can" stuff the lot of them, it gets tedious after a while, like little schoolboys wanting your sweets off you.

If you look at graphs for Urea worldwide it has gone up in price by about $35 dollars a ton since this time last year. We should be paying between £220-230 tops.

Northeastfarmer · Jun 12, 2018

Well if no one orders any then they’ll have to bring the price down

nick... · Jun 12, 2018

Had a call yesterdsy and understood prices were bring withdrawn at midday yesterday and going up £8 ton today
Nick...

robbie · Jun 12, 2018

I've had several calls over the last week or so all with the same lines of "get it booked it's going up tomorrow" or the 11.50 call saying "books close at midday I've only got a limited tonnage left at this price" etc.I find it all a big farce and the more they do it the more it makes me adament I'm not buying.

I had a very good chance meeting with an industry experts today , he's someone with vast knowledge and no vested interest in selling anything and he's sure that the CF price has started to high and that it can't rise much and it will probably come down as the season progresses. He also said urea will be back to nearer the 200 mark later in the season.

I remain sceptical but time will tell!!!!

yellow belly · Jun 12, 2018

If we all wait they will get the impatient early birds and then sales dry up
Not every one have money or shed space or time to unload

crazy_bull · Jun 12, 2018

SilliamWhale said:
If you look at graphs for Urea worldwide it has gone up in price by about $35 dollars a ton since this time last year. We should be paying between £220-230 tops.

May -June 2017 urea circa $180 FOB, today circa $250 FOB

$70 increase, it has gone up $35 since early may 2018.

I think Urea will have a slight correction down but doubt it will get back sub £235.

C B

bobk · Jun 12, 2018

Where are we at with imported 34.5 ? i've no loyalty with british firms who like to jack you off .

Luke Cropwalker · Jun 12, 2018

The answer to the AN pricing game is for farmers to stop playing along. Let the line in the sand be drawn NOW, if the order book is not filled they will drop the price, guaranteed.

bobk · Jun 12, 2018

Luke Cropwalker said:
The answer to the AN pricing game is for farmers to stop playing along. Let the line in the sand be drawn NOW, if the order book is not filled they will drop the price, guaranteed.

Yes , let's all work together ...

SilliamWhale · Jun 12, 2018

crazy_bull said:
May -June 2017 urea circa $180 FOB, today circa $250 FOB

$70 increase, it has gone up $35 since early may 2018.

I think Urea will have a slight correction down but doubt it will get back sub £235.

C B

Fair enough no one knows. It was about $224 in April and admittedly has spiked a bit more since then. I'll have sporting bet that it will get down to April levels sometime in the next 8 months.

Chae1 · Jun 12, 2018

bobk said:
Where are we at with imported 34.5 ? i've no loyalty with british firms who like to jack you off .

I bought a load of lithan. £215/t.

bobk · Jun 12, 2018

SilliamWhale said:
Fair enough no one knows. It was about $224 in April and admittedly has spiked a bit more since then. I'll have sporting bet that it will get down to April levels sometime in the next 8 months.

Yes , demand will drop after july ,

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