marshbarn
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- Location
- shropshire
with the heat and drought cutting straw yields are things now critical
Standing Wheat straw now well over £200/acre in the SW
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- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Oh I see more voodoo economics. The subsidy to people who generate electricity through the use of biomass is driving up the price of straw. Why does government policy always favour the strong such as large scale landowners and those near monopolists, the utility companies, I wonder? Your supply and demand mumbo jumbo is just a smokescreen to justify another government policy which aids the rich at the expense of the majority.Like straw fired power stations, mushroom compost producers, AD is another consumer of straw so your statement is partly true as they put a floor in the market in the East. Their demand is constant, so the straw auctions and FW tables of prices are the true price discovery mechanisms in the market, hence;
Edited to add; If the AD/compost/power demand is constant, the herd instinct of livestock producers to buy more than usual due to the unfortunate circumstances this year (longer winter, low forage yields & current drought) is what is driving the price! Blame whatever or whoever you like, GUTH, but price is a function of supply and demand. It's school-level basic economics.
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Of course I am quite wealthy.Yes, it may well be a subsidised market for renewables.
Do you receive BPS or any stewardship money?
marshbarn
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- Location
- shropshire
Dwindling grass raises fears of winter fodder crisis
Scorched fields on John Yeomans’ farm near the Welsh border
After a difficult winter and recent prolonged dry spell, farmers are on the verge of a serious fodder crisis because of stunted grass growth.
Following two months of scorching weather, grass growth has almost ground to a halt and many livestock farmers across the country are already being forced to eat into autumn feed supplies.
The NFU estimates that grass silage stocks are down by 66% so far this season and many farmers are buying in alternative feed, which is driving up costs and affecting profits.
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AHDB study shows how drought could hit milk margins
After a difficult winter and recent prolonged dry spell, farmers are on the verge of a serious fodder crisis because of stunted grass growth.
Following two months of scorching weather, grass growth has almost ground to a halt and many livestock farmers across the country are already being forced to eat into autumn feed supplies.
The NFU estimates that grass silage stocks are down by 66% so far this season and many farmers are buying in alternative feed, which is driving up costs and affecting profits.
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AHDB study shows how drought could hit milk margins
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Given the exceptional circumstances outlined above there is a clear argument for the government to suspend subsidies paid to straw burners for this season.
marshbarn
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- Location
- shropshire
But the gov cant just intervine when on a had hok basis
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Really? Why? Same applies to AD plants. In a crisis a government should act.
marshbarn
Member
- Location
- shropshire
Uk gov doesnt do anything in a crisis, just pushes things forward
- Location
- Cirencester
marshbarn
Member
- Location
- shropshire
Agreed the the renables need stability
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
No it wont.
Stock are going to be starving this winter if straw cannot be got. The burners could just burn trees or rubbish or lie idle. empty fert bags, tyres , plenty of them
John Slejpner
Member
- Location
- Brick clay near Bedford
What is the ME of straw?
- Location
- South Molton
The only stable thing about renewables is its a roller coaster with the government coming in with stupid high tariffs/prices then the arse dropping out of it.
Bit like the straw trade this year will be.......
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Iben these “businesses” made their investment decisions in the full and certain knowledge that their enterprise depends entirely on a sub. A one year delay in that is entirely reasonable.
You can't expect someone to shut there business down for a year because livestock farms are having a one year in forty problem.
Maybe look at it another way. For decades, straw has been taken for a negligible amount, with the haulage costing way more than the value of the straw.
If a reasonable price had been paid to the farmer for it, every chance these straw burners would never have been built? Even taking the subsidy into account.
Maybe look at it another way. For decades, straw has been taken for a negligible amount, with the haulage costing way more than the value of the straw.
If a reasonable price had been paid to the farmer for it, every chance these straw burners would never have been built? Even taking the subsidy into account.
warksfarmer
Member
The government are going to have 2 easy quarters anyway with this because anybody using a straw burner to create heat in the hottest summer since 76 is having a laugh.
the RHI burners will still be running flat out
got to keep the money coming in
warksfarmer
Member
Then they’ll be expecting an inspection then if submitting large claims!