land line or not?

Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Woodbridge, Suffolk
Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Location
Woodbridge, Suffolk
Doing it for the kids said:
Had a chat to the girl one the chat about it, she didn’t say I couldn’t.

Surely data is data? If I dont use the minutes or texts, does that bother them?
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I just tried to buy a £20 100G sim only deal. This was the legalese in before I hit OK...

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I would suggest you completely clarify with Virgin whether they’ll allow you to use this SIM in a 4G router, as you would definitely be sharing your data with other devices, ie the SIM won’t be used in a phone.

If you look at their mobile broadband SIM only plans they aren’t anywhere near as generous. I think that’s the hint.
 
multi power

multi power

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Location
pembrokeshire
Lewis said:
got a new build and contemplating the need of a land line. With the use of mobiles and the amount of nuisance calls on the home farm house line and the cost was wondering if its needed.

I think I can get the use of Air band (wirelss connection) which would mean I wouldn't need a land line and negate the need for the payment of one also, but the misses want Sky tv so unsure if sky will work without a landline? anybody know?

regards
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I have not had sky for a few years, when we did have it was never connected to the land line
 
Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Woodbridge, Suffolk
Doing it for the kids said:
How will they know though!?
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Well I just had an ‘interesting’ online chat with a Virgin Mobile sales lady, who has confirmed you can tether, share data and plonk the SIM into whatever device you wish. Apparently their T&Cs are “out of date”. There was a bit of a pressure sell going on - she basically wanted me to sign up there and then!

So there you are. I have the transcript in writing if they want to get tetchy in future about it - but I’d go for it.
 
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farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
Pheasant Surprise said:
I just tried to buy a £20 100G sim only deal. This was the legalese in before I hit OK...

I would suggest you completely clarify with Virgin whether they’ll allow you to use this SIM in a 4G router, as you would definitely be sharing your data with other devices, ie the SIM won’t be used in a phone.

If you look at their mobile broadband SIM only plans they aren’t anywhere near as generous. I think that’s the hint.
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Doing it for the kids said:
How will they know though!?
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I believe your device gives itself away when it requests a webpage, it tells the website about itself so that the website returns the appropriately formatted webpage, service providers got smart and now use the information and block data if the request is from a none mobile device on a mobile sim plan. It might be possible to trick the system by emulating a phone browser but then you will will be forced to view webpages as optimised for the small screen..
 
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farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
Pheasant Surprise said:
Well I just had an ‘interesting’ online chat with a Virgin Mobile sales lady, who has confirmed you can tether, share data and plonk the SIM into whatever device you wish. Apparently their T&Cs are “out of date”. There was a bit of a pressure sell going on - she basically wanted me to sign up there and then!

So there you are. I have the transcript in writing if they want to get tetchy in future about it - but I’d go for it.
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Thats sounds like good news, seems a bit maddening if we expected to sign up to terms and conditions which are "out of date" though!
 
Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Woodbridge, Suffolk
Doing it for the kids said:
How will they know though!?
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This tells you a little bit about how they can inspect the various structure and content of the data packets to can find out if your phone is tethered or otherwise sharing it’s data:

https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

In terms of detecting what actual device the SIM card is used within, its very easy for them, as they see the IMEI number of the host device and they can easily lookup exactly what it is that’s connecting to the network - a smartphone, a router, a dongle etc. etc.

https://www.maketecheasier.com/imei-number/

But that’s academic anyway as looks like Virgin have given the thumbs at (or their desperate to make new sales people have).
 
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Breakthru

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Scottish Borders
Dinged BT 10 years ago. Couldn't send a fax never mind email.
Buy an unlocked Nokia Lumia (can connect to 8 devices) and go to the pound shop and buy various sims to try out.
I have a 4G signal in the house with 3 foot thick walls from O2.
Nokia has always had and always will have the best signal retention.
Avoid crapple phones at all costs.
I pay £25/mth for unlimited calls texts plus 25gig of data.
It is my only phone / router.
If you have other users it becomes the home phone and router.
Dump BT and its 1942 copper wire.
 
Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Location
Woodbridge, Suffolk
Breakthru said:
Dinged BT 10 years ago. Couldn't send a fax never mind email.
Buy an unlocked Nokia Lumia (can connect to 8 devices) and go to the pound shop and buy various sims to try out.
I have a 4G signal in the house with 3 foot thick walls from O2.
Nokia has always had and always will have the best signal retention.
Avoid crapple phones at all costs.
I pay £25/mth for unlimited calls texts plus 25gig of data.
It is my only phone / router.
If you have other users it becomes the home phone and router.
Dump BT and its 1942 copper wire.
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Time to re-negotiate your mobile deal, you’re getting ripped a new one there.
 
Pheasant Surprise

Pheasant Surprise

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Woodbridge, Suffolk
Breakthru said:
I pay £25/mth for unlimited calls texts plus 25gig of data.
It is my only phone / router.
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For reference, my current Vodafone SIM only deal (with a couple of SIMs/numbers) is unlimited minutes / unlimited texts / 20 GB data for £13.80+VAT per month.

Signed up to this in January on a 12 month deal. It was 20% discount off the rack rate. Previous years they've had me at 25% discount (but to be fair this was a begging, please stay discount, 'coz they goofed up my previous upgrade big stylee)

Just checked the lay of the land with them today, so to speak, as can officially "upgrade" plans from end of the month. The 20% discount applies for another year beyond my official end of contract, so January 2020. Which is a good thing as they can't better the plan price on their current rack rates! So downgrade rather than upgrade. Oh well.

Best to check every so often, as some of these deals especially on SIM only come and go.
 
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Lewis

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Livestock Farmer
think im going to go with sky and see what kind of package they can do me for everything. i'll have one provider then so simplifys things and seems good in the area.
 
bobk

bobk

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Location
stafford
Pheasant Surprise said:
For reference, my current Vodafone SIM only deal (with a couple of SIMs/numbers) is unlimited minutes / unlimited texts / 20 GB data for £13.80+VAT per month.

Signed up to this in January on a 12 month deal. It was 20% discount off the rack rate. Previous years they've had me at 25% discount (but to be fair this was a begging, please stay discount, 'coz they goofed up my previous upgrade big stylee)

Just checked the lay of the land with them today, so to speak, as can officially "upgrade" plans from end of the month. The 20% discount applies for another year beyond my official end of contract, so January 2020. Which is a good thing as they can't better the plan price on their current rack rates! So downgrade rather than upgrade. Oh well.

Best to check every so often, as some of these deals especially on SIM only come and go.
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He lives in the Borders ffs . hardly a magnet for any provider .
 

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