they could be in a high health scheme and not be very healthy LOL
Is there any future in suckler cows ?
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Very true @Henarar , have seen cattle advertised as Hi Health but when you find out a bit more information their still culling out due to Bvd or something, very misleading in my opinion.
I'm in the Hi Health scheme because I 've got to the point where I have spare pedigree heifers & although I know their healthy, I'd rather have the paperwork to prove it.
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- East Ayrshire
Portequip do a panel you can add to the trough so sheep can't get at creep. A bit of 6x2 with coach screws in the end would do a similar job. I used to have bother with sheep in the creep, but they learned very quickly to not even hang about trying to get in. I normally start calves in a field without sheep so they can get used to trough without the panel on, then add it later.
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- West Somerset
Same here no creep, last year best steers weaned at 8 months 370kg, average wean weight 320kg (rubbishy old Angus
)straight on to arable and clover silage no concentrates, grew like stinkheifers calve down at 24 to 28 months,
Cowcalf
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think some need to remember a lot of suckler men work on much poorer pasture and shorter grazing period than some of you down south working on ground that up here would be classed as arable
think some need to remember a lot of suckler men work on much poorer pasture and shorter grazing period than some of you down south working on ground that up here would be classed as arable
Northeastfarmer
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Boys ground
and some don't
Yes did realise part way through the thread that most of the creep feeders were up North.
I crunched the numbers creeping calves years ago, and I couldn't make the labour bill stack up, (unless you were going to see them anyway, which we don't....can't find the blighters some days).
This autumn, I'm wishing I had crept, but you ca't win em all.
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- West Somerset
Forgot,All SDA land 800 to 1100 ft North facing, not the hardest ground but certainly not easy.Same here no creep, last year best steers weaned at 8 months 370kg, average wean weight 320kg (rubbishy old Angus
heifers calve down at 24 to 28 months,
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Cowcalf
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still have much softer weather !!!!!!!!!!
M-J-G
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I agree with you, it's best to spend money when you're making money, because it's not easy to spend it when you're not making it.
As for anyone who argues against investment in case it means they make more profit and they have more tax to pay, I would think they aren't familiar with having to future proof their business in case of harder times.
I worry about what to do with money after I've made it.
gone up the hill
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- Devon
Same here no creep, last year best steers weaned at 8 months 370kg, average wean weight 320kg (rubbishy old Angus
heifers calve down at 24 to 28 months,
Feeding them on red clover silage clover @tinsheet ?
What do you mean by arable/ clover silage, did you undersow and if so what with?
what more snow ?
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
It certainly goes against most business structures
willie waver
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- walking in the ayr
sheepwise
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- SW Scotland
I think I'm right in saying that you are keeping sucklers on what was a dairy farm up until quite recently. Where our sucklers run, the last time a cow would be milked for human consumption was probably over a hundred years ago.That would be a canny galloway, tied in the byre for the winter, to provide a few squirts of milk for the shepherd's porridge in the morning.
yep use to milk cows here but the implication was that it was arable land and so a couple of the best fields [8 acres] were for the war ag the results of which dad said were not very good