Any Advantages?
- Thread starter Fragonard
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I suppose its half way
Half way is better than staying in the sh!t house
Half way is better than staying in the sh!t house
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The detail of the deal is still not that clear. All those nations outside of the EU still do some business with it, so I guess that says something. We are in a mess with no plan B. Labour are a joke IMO as all they want is for the government to be brought down and an ensuing GE! They are no better than the Tories - they won’t nail their flag to the post and tell us all what they would do! Part of me thinks we should just leave with no set deal and then see how the politicians here and in EU deal with that scenario. As I’ve said before the Far East motor companies probably relish the chance to gain a bigger share of the UK market and many other products likewise. Not sure where it would leave Airbus though.
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Why would far eastern car companies get a bigger share of the market? Or are you suggesting this would happen because existing car manufactures will eventually move all their production into Europe. This has be the most likely outcome as 80% of the production already ends up on the continent.
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I was thinking that if it becomes more difficult for the Europeans to export to us the Koreans and Japanese would be more than willing to step into the breach. Probably won’t happen. On the whole Brexit matter, all this talk and deal making; you are either in or out! Which is it to be?Why would far eastern car companies get a bigger share of the market? Or are you suggesting this would happen because existing car manufactures will eventually move all their production into Europe. This has be the most likely outcome as 80% of the production already ends up on the continent.
If you think Brexit has miffed the Europeans, then how do you think the Japanese feel??
Absolutely shafted!!! Massive Japanese investment in UK, based on the total European market, SM, CU and frictionless borders.
And they have made their feeling on this issue quite clear to the British government.
But hey, Boris is happy to put them in their place with his “fu&k business” tantrum!!!
no there decision though is it so tough sh!t not yours either so ditto
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Yup, it raises issues all over the place
wanton dwarf
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I watched some of the Brexit all house commitee interviewing Theresa May.
A lot of the deal doesn't exist and has been left to political wording which is fluid.
So when the bank of England published their figures .. it was a guess because the main policies just are not there. For example there is no mention of tariffs or free movement of trade or payments by the UK to the EU.. it's a stop gap which binds the UK to the EU with an indefinite period.
renewablejohn
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I am also a sad person who saw some of it and was appalled at how little was actually in the agreement and how much of the spin was so easily unpicked by the MP's probing questions. Best laugh was who was going to build the Irish border crossing which really sums up the nonsense May was trying to justify.
wanton dwarf
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LandRover planned to move their production to Slovakia years ago. Jobs currently being lost in the Midlands. Most of todays industrial movements are occuring because of Globalist policies which ignore national interests. Globalist policies like "Climate Change" where massive taxes are placed on UK industry .. which moves abroad pays no taxes and then uses dirty energy.
Very few people will vote on Japanese interests.
Of course you have the Japanese at heart in everything you post.
wanton dwarf
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Mrs May's voice was shaking .. I assumed in panic .. I wonder how much of this is purely pantomime. They created the script years ago IMHO and all this is just acting out the fact they've "run of time" - on porpoise.
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Thousands of households in the UK depend on Japanese interests. If they can't sell into the EU at a profit, it's the end of the road for UK car manufacturing.
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I am coming round to that view.
Although I have serious doubts about leaving the EU, it was after all, the will of the people tested by a referendum and from people I speak to day in day out I see no change in that basic desire to be free from EU political rule. People don't seem bothered about a bit of economic disruption and see it as a price worth paying for regaining control of our borders and judiciary.
If we can break free to a certain extent from political control without disrupting trade too seriously as promised by Mrs Mays deal, then maybe it really is the best that can made of a difficult situation.
To some extent the die is cast and we are committed.
Time to get on with I reckon.
wanton dwarf
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They did in the fishing industry as well .. most of our coastal towns are desolate thanks to decades of EU destruction.
And shipping and mining and UK car industry (not Japanese) and Steel .. lots of industries have been thrown under the bus.
David Cameron couldn't give a toss about 30,000 Steel workers.
All of a sudden a few workers who will probably lose their jobs anyway thanks to EU and HMG policy is important.
This is not about a few UK workers in the Japanese car industry .. this is about 100,000s of jobs in the EU environmental lobby in councils, EA, DEFRA, political parties, media, Climate Lobby and all the associated industries feeding of UK tax payers money.
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There will be disruption and losses no doubt about it. But demand will still be there. Trade will continue one way or another. One door closes another opens. C'est la vie.
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And ultimately, the European Union will trade freely with us if there really is good will on their part.
The only reason they won't trade freely with us is because they want to use trade as a political stick to beat us with or to get one over on us and in doing so they will inflict pain on their own and our citizens. That is very very telling.
The only reason they won't trade freely with us is because they want to use trade as a political stick to beat us with or to get one over on us and in doing so they will inflict pain on their own and our citizens. That is very very telling.
May I commend this thoughtful and insightful article about the decline of Britain as an economic and industrial power. Written way back in 1979 when neither the EU or globalisation were in vogue.
https://www.economist.com/news/1979/06/02/britains-decline-its-causes-and-consequences