Wheel settings for 11” work

Tonym · Jan 25, 2019

I have used them on 10.5 in and they were not the problem I thought they might be. Width of the furrow bottom depends on how far you push the mouldboard over not on the actual width that you plough so best just give it a try and see how it goes with your plough.

colhonk · Jan 25, 2019

I use 13.6`s. with about 40% tread no problems, leave less of a mark ontop of ploughing on last run. I run them at 5lbs pressure.

Ley253 · Jan 25, 2019

If you set the board at its "natural" position,it will leave an open furrow about ten inches wide, this seems to be a constant, every ransome plough I have been involved with and my kv world style measured this.having said that, the widest tyre would be 11" footprint. I have michelins, 12.4 32, but they only measure 11" footprint.! The Barums, were 13"

mike.l · Jan 25, 2019

Hi I run 12.4 they are just a little narrower and fit a little better in the furrow but 2 years ago i used 13.6 and if i was not careful i could tread on the last plowed furrow and it would show up as paired furrows when you viewed the plowing from the ends

Pennine Ploughing · Jan 25, 2019

I use 11/12.4 x 28, and sits in furrow bottom fine with just a little bit left between the tyre and last furrow,
I tens to run the furrow wheel with higher psi than the land whee, this is to try and even out the grip on a W4 with no diff lock

Howard150 · Jan 25, 2019

Cordiale said:
What tyre width is best for 11" TCN work.
Would 13.6 be okay?

Depends how far you push your boards out. 12.4 can be a snug fit sometimes especially if your tyre runs away from the furrow wall. Later TCN’s were made to accommodate them and are slightly more abrupt. These later ones only have 2 holes in the share but not one in the landside.

If 13.6 is what you have then go with it. Suck it and see then set your plough up accordingly.

Petetheploughman · Jan 25, 2019

Howard150 said:
Depends how far you push your boards out. 12.4 can be a snug fit sometimes especially if your tyre runs away from the furrow wall. Later TCN’s were made to accommodate them and are slightly more abrupt. These later ones only have 2 holes in the share but not one in the landside.

If 13.6 is what you have then go with it. Suck it and see then set your plough up accordingly.

Which TCN's do you use for match ploughing? The old ones with the Ransomes semi circle on or the later ones with the capital 'R' on? I have tried both and I can't tell any difference whatsoever. I just wondered if you can tell any difference as you know exactly what you're talking about, unlike myself.

Pennine Ploughing · Jan 25, 2019

Petetheploughman said:
Which TCN's do you use for match ploughing? The old ones with the Ransomes semi circle on or the later ones with the capital 'R' on? I have tried both and I can't tell any difference whatsoever. I just wondered if you can tell any difference as you know exactly what you're talking about, unlike myself.

the boards are the same, its the frogs that are different,
as Howard says, later frogs only have 2 bolts on the top none on the side

Petetheploughman · Jan 25, 2019

Pennine Ploughing said:
the boards are the same, its the frogs that are different,
as Howard says, later frogs only have 2 bolts on the top none on the side

I must be getting confused due to age. Is it the ordinary TCN's and TS 86 TCN's that are different? I believe one is deeper than the other.

Howard150 · Jan 26, 2019

Petetheploughman said:
I must be getting confused due to age. Is it the ordinary TCN's and TS 86 TCN's that are different? I believe one is deeper than the other.

As Pennine says it’s just the frogs which were manufactured differently. The later ones were changed to accommodate the wider tyres on later tractors. They set the board further out, in effect giving a wider furrow bottom. The mouldboard is the same. They only have 2 holes in the top of the share. Whether it be a D or an R on them makes little difference to how they plough. Usually the 3 hole frogs were fitted to 86’s. David Bonning used to call these ‘Competition Bodies’ as opposed to the 2 hole variant.
I have tried to measure frogs before but as with all things Ransomes, products were made in a golden era of notalotofaccuracy and it’s a fair task to find 2 frogs which are the same. The later ones may also just stand a little more plumb which in turn will put more pressure on the back of the board.
As regards being deeper the this again could be down to manufacturing changes or intolerance. As long as you have a matched pair then no difference
With regard to Ransomes tolerances, I have machined a good few plough legs over the years. 59’s in particular are notorious for having no 2 legs the same.

Ley253 · Jan 26, 2019

No two legs the same, Another bit KV copied then! Strange though, David was quite ready to point out Ransomes quality control.

arcobob · Jan 26, 2019

More examples of "as manufactured " being good enough for commercial use but can be improved when splitting hairs is required.

arcobob · Jan 26, 2019

Pennine Ploughing said:
I use 11/12.4 x 28, and sits in furrow bottom fine with just a little bit left between the tyre and last furrow,
I tens to run the furrow wheel with higher psi than the land whee, this is to try and even out the grip on a W4 with no diff lock

I use 11.2/10 X 28 rears, 5.50 X 16 fronts on my 275 for 10" work and this gives a bit of wriggle room.

Howard150 · Jan 26, 2019

arcobob said:
I use 11.2/10 X 28 rears, 5.50 X 16 fronts on my 275 for 10" work and this gives a bit of wriggle room.

Attention to detail Bob in this part of the world. Ask your local plough manufacturer.

Rob C321 · Jan 28, 2019

I think so

FARMINGMAN19345 · Feb 24, 2019

Hi could anyone tell me if the depth wheel was standard as i recently brought my first one and it wasn't on the plough and was told it wasn't standard with it, the plough is a ransome ts59 i think, thanks.

wuddy · Feb 24, 2019

FARMINGMAN19345 said:
Hi could anyone tell me if the depth wheel was standard as i recently brought my first one and it wasn't on the plough and was told it wasn't standard with it, the plough is a ransome ts59 i think, thanks.

No a depth wheel wasn’t standard! It probably would have been on early ploughs but with the advent of draft control it would be optional

arcobob · Feb 25, 2019

wuddy said:
No a depth wheel wasn’t standard! It probably would have been on early ploughs but with the advent of draft control it would be optional

I would think you are almost certainly right, especially on three and four furrows.

Howard150 · Feb 25, 2019

Very rare to see a 59 in this part of the world that was supplied without a depth wheel. Even the 73’s hereabouts had a wheel of sorts fitted to the back body. It was a straight up and down affair, a square shaft with one of the corners taken off, adjusted with a set screw acting on the corner. It was nescessary for the Power Major fitted with a preset linkage
One which does definitely come without a wheel was the 1013, made for the Dexta and as you so rightly say Wuddy, the advent of draught control. Not a lot of difference to the Robin, but only one hole in the headstock as opposed to two.

wuddy · Feb 25, 2019

Howard150 said:
Very rare to see a 59 in this part of the world that was supplied without a depth wheel. Even the 73’s hereabouts had a wheel of sorts fitted to the back body. It was a straight up and down affair, a square shaft with one of the corners taken off, adjusted with a set screw acting on the corner. It was nescessary for the Power Major fitted with a preset linkage
One which does definitely come without a wheel was the 1013, made for the Dexta and as you so rightly say Wuddy, the advent of draught control. Not a lot of difference to the Robin, but only one hole in the headstock as opposed to two.

Quite a few three furrow 59’s up here with no depth wheels but the majority have the standard depth wheel

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