Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.
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....are they still melting....
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- Owaka, New Zealand
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Consumerism/materialism is possibly the great underlying problem, or the root of it.
Humans have simply adopted stupid ways to keep score, the great irony is that the countries doing most of the really excessive damage to the planet are likely also the most likely to survive mass extinction to some degree
....are they still melting....
Yes, oh and I read a book about a topic similar to that too
https://www.kotterinc.com/book/our-iceberg-is-melting/
Indeed
Consumerism/materialism is possibly the great underlying problem, or the root of it.
Humans have simply adopted stupid ways to keep score, the great irony is that the countries doing most of the really excessive damage to the planet are likely also the most likely to survive mass extinction to some degree
Ah, but does it not get reported that Capitalism makes us more 'Greedy' and 'Materialistic', which then leads us into more excessive consumerism..
Mental note to oneself - refrain from posting contentious things....
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That will rattle the spiders out!Flogged the f**k out of some wood today
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- Owaka, New Zealand
It is a convenient way to brush aside popular human behaviour, perhaps?Ah, but does it not get reported that Capitalism makes us more 'Greedy' and 'Materialistic', which then leads us into more excessive consumerism..
Mental note to oneself - refrain from posting contentious things....
I haven't been to a communist country but they seem to have plenty of gadgets, plenty of gas-guzzlers and plenty of waste
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- Owaka, New Zealand
f**k them, as Blaithin suggested, if our local church burnt down your govt wouldn't give a fat rat's fanny and neither would our own. The Church has plenty of money.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
My daughter has Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. Amongst the effects it makes it harder for her to equate cause and effect and, especially, to relate learning from past experience to new but similar situations. It just doesn't compute for FASD sufferers. I begin to wonders if we don't ALL have it where nature is concerned
Indeed
Consumerism/materialism is possibly the great underlying problem, or the root of it.
Humans have simply adopted stupid ways to keep score, the great irony is that the countries doing most of the really excessive damage to the planet are likely also the most likely to survive mass extinction to some degree
What we urgently need is a robust and rigidly applied comprehensive system to charge the true environmental cost of all products and services to the user at the point of purchase in order to change habits. The trouble is the whole lobbying industry (and most politicians) is/are doing their best to prevent it as it would kill their cash cow.
Tipping points, here we come
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- West Yorkshire
I agree the church does have plenty of money.
Would it not be insured too?
Also if it was relevant to the ongoing building works and they were at fault would they not be insured too ?
Those million / billionaires could donate that cash to much better causes around the world that may constitute to a much improved planet.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
In my opinion, if the world's billionaires donated their "charity" to the world's poorest communities then it would make a much larger difference than simply shuffling it around "wealthy" ones in wealthy countries.
Our class at school fundraised and donated to a small village in Uganda, it was so amazing what they managed to achieve with our few hundred dollars that I've continued to give them a similar amount each year - maybe a total of 5 grand and it's beautiful!!
If I gave 5 grand to my local village it would be wasted, by comparison.
I have to respect your generosity,a holistic approach to sharing and being charitable.
For me charity begins at home as I currently I’d rather spend a pound on my family rather than someone else’s.
When I feel I have something to give I will but I’m not there yet......and maybe as a tight sheep farmer I never will.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Any examples? I'd consider something similar.
The trick is to give it direct as huge quantities of money channelled through "official" channels, especially in African countries, just ends up making the ruling class richer . Look how the proceeds of "Live Aid" etc end up
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"When people say 'Charity begins at home' they very often mean 'You should look after your own kids, family and own circle first and then be kind to people' which is not the original meaning of the proverb. The original meaning is that charity begins in the home - that is to say kids learn charity in the home."
I understand why the saying gets used in the way it does these days but so often it is by people in the richest countries in the world saying it. Very difficult to know where to give it to without it ending up in the wrong hands but not a good reason not to give at all. It actually makes me a bit sad every time I hear the phrase.
I understand why the saying gets used in the way it does these days but so often it is by people in the richest countries in the world saying it. Very difficult to know where to give it to without it ending up in the wrong hands but not a good reason not to give at all. It actually makes me a bit sad every time I hear the phrase.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
True. It's easily perverted to a thinly veiled version of isolationism and justifying an "I'm alright Jack" mentality.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Precisely, obviously the aim of my little bit is to help these folk to help themselves - not make the middlemen richer.Any examples? I'd consider something similar.
The trick is to give it direct as huge quantities of money channelled through "official" channels, especially in African countries, just ends up making the ruling class richer . Look how the proceeds of "Live Aid" etc end up
You could look into givedirectly.org or globalgiving.org - as I am just carrying on what we began 30 years ago I don't actually have any idea how you'd begin - perhaps the UVP?
If you look at how much money just a couple of the 'Rich' people have dontated to the plight of Notre Dame, you will understand just how much good that could do elswhere....
I have to respect your generosity,a holistic approach to sharing and being charitable.
For me charity begins at home as I currently I’d rather spend a pound on my family rather than someone else’s.
When I feel I have something to give I will but I’m not there yet......and maybe as a tight sheep farmer I never will.
Ah, but generosity is not only financial... Strange how we measure ourselves, isn't it.
Sharing knowledge can mean a lot more to someone's wellbeing than donating sums of money, as you can allow someone an opportunity to build a life for themselves following guidance from your skills learnt over the years
Yes,I see your point,I would consider myself to be generous in other ways.Ah, but generosity is not only financial... Strange how we measure ourselves, isn't it.
Sharing knowledge can mean a lot more to someone's wellbeing than donating sums of money, as you can allow someone an opportunity to build a life for themselves following guidance from your skills learnt over the years
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Sometimes wisdom is the best charity of all, both to give and to receive