Project Xerion.

ollie989898 · May 9, 2019

Steevo · May 9, 2019

ollie989898 said:
I don't know why that hasn't been done before. A self loading machine would make it a one man operation and far simpler than dragging a telehandler everywhere. The conveyor system on a those self propelled feeder wagons would be able to suck up bulk lime as easy as any bucket.

Suck up you say?!

A vacuum!! Maybe Mr Dyson could help out!!

ollie989898 · May 9, 2019

Steevo said:
Suck up you say?!

A vacuum!! Maybe Mr Dyson could help out!!

Anything pneumatic is normally pretty hideous in terms of efficiency...

Hesston4860s · May 9, 2019

Cab-over Pete said:
Anything classed as an Agricultural Machine can’t tow any trailer on the road. So sp spreaders, sprayers etc cant tow trailers. The only exception is a combine and that can only tow it’s own header. No empty trailers, no fuel bowsers, nothing else.

So I need a machine classed as a tractor. I don’t want a tractor and trailed spreader. We are known for travelling as light as possible on the land and you can’t do that with a tractor and trailed spreader. So I need a self propelled machine classed as a tractor that can legally pull a trailer with the Loadall on.

Enter the Xerion.

But no tractor at all can tow any trailer if it’s over 3 metres wide. They can tow implements with an escort, but not trailers in a truly self contained one man outfit.

Hence my huge efforts to find the right tractor with the right wheels and tyres to squeeze under 3 metres and still travel well in crab steer with the best flexion tyres I can find. There is nothing else that ticks all those boxes.

This can’t be right can it !, I’ve just looked at the V5’s for my 3 tractors and loadall.
They are all Taxation Class - Agricultural Machine so I can’t tow anything then ?, or am I thinking wrong somewhere ?.

tomlad · May 9, 2019

ollie989898 said:

Scrap everything else pete u need that machine its cool as frig

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

eeerrrmmmm..

after considered reflection, I think I'll give that the swerve.

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Hesston4860s said:
This can’t be right can it !, I’ve just looked at the V5’s for my 3 tractors and loadall.
They are all Taxation Class - Agricultural Machine so I can’t tow anything then ?, or am I thinking wrong somewhere ?.

Somewhere else on the document it should say tractor

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Fendt516profi said:
I thought it would be a option you'd already investigated. Once saw a chap using something like one of theseView attachment 796714with a clamshell bucket to load a self propelled spreader. Then just hooked it on back and drove away (don't know if he was legal)

lots of SP operators had those, they were called a Dalla Bona.

Still towing on the road with an ag machine.

We are going round in circles I think. As @Gerbert has referred to it's taken me a long time and a lot of legal advice to get to the decision I made

puntabrava · May 9, 2019

Hesston4860s said:
This can’t be right can it !, I’ve just looked at the V5’s for my 3 tractors and loadall.
They are all Taxation Class - Agricultural Machine so I can’t tow anything then ?, or am I thinking wrong somewhere ?.

I wondered what he was going on about but didn’t like to say.

sawdust · May 9, 2019

ollie989898 said:

Not exactly softly softly catchy monkey...

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

puntabrava said:
I wondered what he was going on about but didn’t like to say.

Well that would make a change!!

tomlad · May 9, 2019

Avin it aahhh

Look out gate posts comin thru

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Hesston4860s said:
This can’t be right can it !, I’ve just looked at the V5’s for my 3 tractors and loadall.
They are all Taxation Class - Agricultural Machine so I can’t tow anything then ?, or am I thinking wrong somewhere ?.

puntabrava said:
I wondered what he was going on about but didn’t like to say.

You should find your actual tractors are listed as such on the V5:

Body type: Agricultural Tractor
Tax class : Agricultural Machine

Whereas your Loadall and my self propelled spreaders are listed as follows:

Body type: Agricultural Machine
Tax class: Agricultural Machine

puntabrava · May 9, 2019

Cab-over Pete said:
You should find your actual tractors are listed as such on the V5:

Body type: Agricultural Tractor
Tax class : Agricultural Machine

Whereas your Loadall and my self propelled spreaders are listed as follows:

Body type: Agricultural Machine
Tax class: Agricultural Machine

Body type Agric Tractor
Taxation class Agricultural machine
Do you have the v5’s for the big A’s?

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Yes.

Body type : Agricultural Machine
Tax class: Agricultural Machine

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Is that spreader of yours based on the Case Magnum or a later type.

Otherwise I’ve no idea how that’s classed as a tractor.

puntabrava · May 9, 2019

Cab-over Pete said:
Is that spreader of yours based on the Case Magnum or a later type.

Otherwise I’ve no idea how that’s classed as a tractor.

No, V8 Mercedes and hydrostatic.

Cab-over Pete · May 9, 2019

Fair play, don’t know how that managed to slip the net.

mogman · May 9, 2019

Stranger things happen, I used to have a JCB 3cx taxed as a digging machine and cost £150 to tax it, so went the post and managed to get them to send my log book to Swansea and get it changed to agricultural tractor result

free tax

Very poor show on this cab mount bullocks I was looking forward to a great building project

Drillman · May 10, 2019

@Cab-over Pete

If you have a problem.......

If no one else can help.......

If you can find them.........

Maybe you could hire the.........

Q the music

Now all you need is an old school bus some corrugated sheets and a set of oxy bottles

Yep you’ve all got that tune in your heads now haven’t you

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