Herdsperson wage??

O'Reilly

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Quick look online shows a mortgage for £113k with repayments of £533/month. It might buy a house in parts of Wales, but not in most of the country. 3 bed new builds down the road £530k. Bit poncey, but not that special.
 

LDaisy

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Location
Devon
I make it 12 milkings a week, but there is a lot more to the job than just milking, unless someone else is going to do the record keeping, foot trimming, grassland management, calving, vet work etc,etc etc
No need to fight your corner. Just go somewhere else
I think just leaving does
Does your house include council tax paid? All bills paid?
All Bill's I'd pay for
I make it 12 milkings a week, but there is a lot more to the job than just milking, unless someone else is going to do the record keeping, foot trimming, grassland management, calving, vet work etc,etc etc
Its 9 milking a week, would be 10 but gives me an afternoon to meter the whole farm. I'd do everything
That’s definitely in GBP not dollars?
Herdswoman *
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
I think just leaving does

All Bill's I'd pay for

Its 9 milking a week, would be 10 but gives me an afternoon to meter the whole farm. I'd do everything

Herdswoman *

It sounds like a position with a lot of responsibility. The pay honestly doesn’t sound great but what’s the future potential? What do you want to do five years from now? Will this position get you there?

I started here at the bottom of the pay scale considering my skill set. It was not a pleasant place to work and nearly every day was a battle. But I could see nothing but potential so stuck it out and things have changed dramatically for the better. I have always been a believer that learning is a painful, uncomfortable experience that should leave a lasting impression.

It is a reasonably pleasant place to live and work now and my pay has significantly increased, as has my future potential. Progress is made nearly every day and I am still learning. Had I taken easier opportunities that paid better I do not think I would have learned as much or grown as a person.
 

LDaisy

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Location
Devon
It's not that far off is it?
Pushing a £30k package. What's the national average £22k and they still have to fund a house.
Throw a truck in as well I say.

On another note I bet the consultant never talks down their fees :woot:
Well that's the other thing I have a truck which I use on the farm when other vehicles aren't available, as self employed I never thought to ask for fuel but surely that should come into it now?
 

JES

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I'm trying to grasp what my worth is as a herdsperson, going from a self employed acting herdsperson. I was finally presented a contract at 24K with a 3 bed house, day off a week and every other weekend off, 230 cows, NZ system. Would of said I was worth a minimum 26K but they insist the advice was from a farm consultan to be 24K. Would like some thoughts before I have to fight my corner.
Consultant will be looking at cost per litre, if there are no plans for expansion you will only get more if you add value. Work out your hours and demand a living wage i.e. £9/ hours which will likely equate to 26 K.
 

multi power

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Location
pembrokeshire
I'm trying to grasp what my worth is as a herdsperson, going from a self employed acting herdsperson. I was finally presented a contract at 24K with a 3 bed house, day off a week and every other weekend off, 230 cows, NZ system. Would of said I was worth a minimum 26K but they insist the advice was from a farm consultan to be 24K. Would like some thoughts before I have to fight my corner.
id ask the farm consultant to take over your job, see how keen he is on 24k
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Consultant will be looking at cost per litre, if there are no plans for expansion you will only get more if you add value. Work out your hours and demand a living wage i.e. £9/ hours which will likely equate to 26 K.

£9 an hour self employed is no where near a living wage. Especially for a job which involves unpleasant working conditions and antisocial hours.
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
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Yosemite Sam

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Location
Wiltshire
Well that's the other thing I have a truck which I use on the farm when other vehicles aren't available, as self employed I never thought to ask for fuel but surely that should come into it now?
Your'e not earning enough if your self employed and doing everything. You might also find that you should technically be employed. The inland revenue are getting quite hot on self employed people working full time for the same client. What sort of hours do you work and are your "employers" trying it on because you are female.
 

JES

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Trouble is that the money has to come from somewhere, most people working at the sharp end of dairy farming are being underpaid, until money gets introduced by the consumer paying more for dairy product we get less each point until the person putting on cluster gets only the legal minimum. Until the industry wakes up to this basic point decline in dairy farming numbers is inevitable along with moral.
 
Anyone who ever utters anything along the lines of: 'because my consultant said that is all I should offer you' needs a good slap with a big wet kipper and another one left spare for the bloody consultant as well. What kind of utter moron has a grown up conversation with someone like that?

Big alarm bells would be going off in my mind if a potential employer was talking like that I'm afraid.

Skilled and dedicated people are in very short supply and the OP sounds like an enthusiastic person who should be grabbed with both hands and supported the whole way, not taken for a fool. I sincerely hope they find the right kind of employer in the near future.
 
Trouble is that the money has to come from somewhere, most people working at the sharp end of dairy farming are being underpaid, until money gets introduced by the consumer paying more for dairy product we get less each point until the person putting on cluster gets only the legal minimum. Until the industry wakes up to this basic point decline in dairy farming numbers is inevitable along with moral.

Come off it.

Dairy industry is circling the drain is it?

Ok, I challenge you to do this. Get a mobile phone and spend one hour enquiring with various trades and suppliers trying to buy and have installed by the end of 2019 any of the following.

A rotary parlour or robots.
A slurry store.
Umbrella building plus cubicles for 200 cows. For extra lulz tell them you want all the steel galvanised.
Builders to construct the above.
Tradesmen to plumb and wire the above.
Cow matresses including fitting.

From what I have been told recently in this region the majority of companies involved in the sale, supply or installation of the above capital items are basically running flat out and there are waiting lists for much of them.

For extra points try finding a company who can supply and install plastic piping for underground slurry piping.

For an industry that is borked colour me surprised.
 

LDaisy

New Member
Location
Devon
I don't think they are showing you much respect pulling you down by £2k if your doing the complete job, you sound like an asset to the farm
Well they said themselves they've never had anyone with so much get up and go about the job. But I'm not going to do the goddamn paper work and grass meter every 5 seconds when I'm not getting the herdsperson benefits.. like some well needed holiday pay! So that's there argument.
 

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