Are you ready for Brexit

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
:scratchhead: How do you prepare for the unknown other than to sit on your hands and delay investment? We are 2 weeks until we are supposed to leave... will we have free trade with the EU or will tariffs effectively shut down EU exports, will 100,000T of South American beef suddenly wash ashore with no tariffs on it and flood the market overnight, will we actually leave at all? How can anyone possibly prepare, if we leave on 31st October there isn't 3 years to prepare, there might not even be 3 days.
Do you now what the average WTO tariff is ? Apart from food and cars/trucks they are ugger all and less than the pound has dropped since the vote, so no exports wont stop due to tariffs
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Sorry my bad, exports wont stop due to tariffs, apart from food and car/trucks and being on an Ag forum why would I care about that :scratchhead: :banghead::banghead:
Because UK citizens buy your food, just about sums up the attitude of quite a few farmers, they want to keep their lifestyle and income bugger everyone else, lots of farmers including me voted leave because we believe its in the best interest of the country in the long run regardless of any impact it might have on us in the short term
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Bridgend
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farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Because UK citizens buy your food, just about sums up the attitude of quite a few farmers, they want to keep their lifestyle and income bugger everyone else, lots of farmers including me voted leave because we believe its in the best interest of the country in the long run regardless of any impact it might have on us in the short term
UK citizens buy our food, they will also buy it from elsewhere either due to supply or price... even @Hilly is out buying imported oranges and bananas when you and he could follow your nationalist ideas and buy only British produce... Hypothetically speaking, if Brexit were to directly result in your business folding and you going bankrupt, would you still consider that level of short term negative impact worth it for the interest of the country?
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
UK citizens buy our food, they will also buy it from elsewhere either due to supply or price... even @Hilly is out buying imported oranges and bananas when you and he could follow your nationalist ideas and buy only British produce... Hypothetically speaking, if Brexit were to directly result in your business folding and you going bankrupt, would you still consider that level of short term negative impact worth it for the interest of the country?
We are only 60% self sufficient, lets supply our own market, yes I know we export a lot of lamb and if that stops then sheep producers will have to change, we have NO right to stay in business anymore than the corner shop or local milkman, they almost died out yet now there are plenty of local shops who open different hours and offer a better range, milkmen are making a comeback by offering far more than milk using modern sales ideas such as online ordering. One thing for certain what ever happens with brexit is I wont be going bust, I owe nothing and have a diverse business that doesnt rely too much on commodity production. When the going gets tough the tough get going
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
We are only 60% self sufficient, lets supply our own market, yes I know we export a lot of lamb and if that stops then sheep producers will have to change, we have NO right to stay in business anymore than the corner shop or local milkman, they almost died out yet now there are plenty of local shops who open different hours and offer a better range, milkmen are making a comeback by offering far more than milk using modern sales ideas such as online ordering. One thing for certain what ever happens with brexit is I wont be going bust, I owe nothing and have a diverse business that doesnt rely too much on commodity production. When the going gets tough the tough get going
Fair points, though the corner shop and milkmen had years of gradual change, we are about to go though a near overnight and significant shift in our market position for commodities that have long and inflexible production cycles. Like you I have diversity in income which buys me more time than those with significant borrowings and a heavy reliance on any single commodity... I don't seem to recall the Brexit tag line "Vote Brexit, and when the going gets tough, the tough will get going whilst the not so tough will go to the wall"
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Because UK citizens buy your food, just about sums up the attitude of quite a few farmers, they want to keep their lifestyle and income bugger everyone else, lots of farmers including me voted leave because we believe its in the best interest of the country in the long run regardless of any impact it might have on us in the short term

And lots voted to remain because we believe that it’s in the best interests of the country in the long run.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
And lots voted to remain because we believe that it’s in the best interests of the country in the long run.
Thats fine and I have no issue with those that voted to remain we are all entitled to or own point of view, BUT in a democracy the point of view with the most votes win, a large percentage of remain voters have accepted the result and want to move on but a very vocal minority of selfish bad losers want it overturned, that just about sums up modern life, dont get your way then have a tantrum until you do
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Thats fine and I have no issue with those that voted to remain we are all entitled to or own point of view, BUT in a democracy the point of view with the most votes win, a large percentage of remain voters have accepted the result and want to move on but a very vocal minority of selfish bad losers want it overturned, that just about sums up modern life, dont get your way then have a tantrum until you do

No that is incorrect. We live in a representative democracy where the rights and interests of all the populous have to be accommodated at some level. Hence it often seems by the majority that small minority groups are over represented. Had the result of the referendum been respected by the Leavers a Norway type deal would have been the obvious and least damaging way forward, as was the actual case in Norway when they voted 48 to 52 not to join the EU in 1994.
 

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