Are you ready for Brexit

[farmerm]

They had a red tractor a Union Jack flag and said packed in the uk so just assumed they are British , I’m gutted to learn they are IMPORTED ! The dirty trixter shop s tricking me like that

We can pull the same trick on the EU and supply them British Bananas and British South American Beef if some of your fellow dreamers, sorry leave voters, get their way and we manage to convince the EU to allow us to leave whilst keeping our existing free trade arrangements in place.

 

[farmerm]

Very unlikely that a Lib/ green etc 3/4 way government would last 6 months, yep it could happen but they would spend all their time fighting each other and would end up a disaster !

If Labour keep blocking brexit and a GE then the writing is on the wall for them big time and Boris will ( rightly or wrongly ) turn it to his advantage!

It wouldn't have to last 6 days in order to kill Article 50 stone dead.

 

[gone up the hill]

like to see a source for that TBH.....final bit of your post is just hurtful trash i think you're better than that .....i'm actually a more hardcore leaver than you as the deal is remain to me

I didn't mean to offend you and im very sorry if I did spin cycle as I have a massive respect for you and your experiences/ views and knowledge of UK farming and always enjoy reading your posts.

If you are a true leaver the hold on in there and keep supporting leave, regardless of it happening this month or in 3 months if you truly believe we should leave the EU then you must stick with that view, remianers want leavers to say what you are thinking : which is : this is tough, lets take a breather and stay in the EU for a few more years.

 

[Werzle]

Cheap food imports, scrubland, bears, wolves and unemployment is what takes it place...

Lower basic payments but far bigger payments for planting hedges, trees, flower meadows etc. Better /higher grants for water run off schemes, money for letting land flood easier etc etc. Dont fight it , just apply for it all and go with the flow. Young ones on here should be looking at starting a business learning how to plant all these trees and hedges, ready for the new green era. It wil be awash with grant money

 

[Henarar]

Lower basic payments but far bigger payments for planting hedges, trees, flower meadows etc. Better /higher grants for water run off schemes, money for letting land flood easier etc etc. Dont fight it , just apply for it all and go with the flow. Young ones on here should be looking at starting a business learning how to plant all these trees and hedges, ready for the new green era. It wil be awash with grant money

Yep I already have a few fields of bears and wolves ready to sell on at quite a price, and may I say how well they are looking and breeding like mad, I am going to make a fecking fortune
Just one thing I can't find the cows anywhere I have looked and looked but they are gone and I have no idea where, I mean it's not like they have got out with fencing that will keep bears and wolves in is it, oh well one of life's little mysteries

 

[farmerm]

Lower basic payments but far bigger payments for planting hedges, trees, flower meadows etc. Better /higher grants for water run off schemes, money for letting land flood easier etc etc. Dont fight it , just apply for it all and go with the flow. Young ones on here should be looking at starting a business learning how to plant all these trees and hedges, ready for the new green era. It wil be awash with grant money

Grants, schemes and a mountain of Whitehall paperwork, rules and regulations to go with them... best not mention that to the Leave voters who expected deregulation and a bonfire of legislation

When funds are distributed in this manor the money often only reaches the large estates, their agents and advisors, the administrators and the inspectors. Still, I best get the dozer out quick and level all our hedges and woodlands so I am in a better position to capitalise on this great new opportunity when it arises.

 

[Clive]

We will leave on 31st imo

but we will then have years of legal challenge re the legitimacy of it all

remoaners are not going to give up ever imo until we all accept how stupid we are compared to them ?

 

[farmerm]

We will leave on 31st imo

but we will then have years of legal challenge re the legitimacy of it all

remoaners are not going to give up ever imo until we all accept how stupid we are compared to them ?

It is fair to say the inverse would be equally true had things gone the other way..

I don't believe all Leavers are stupid, some like yourself are looking forward and can see opportunities from Brexit. I could easily be a leaver if I could see us leaving in such a way as to not leave our sector in real . The leave voters that are stupid are those that based their decision on single issues like immigration or those that believe Brexit means a step back in time to a time of less regulation, a time when we had a population and a government that respected and protected its agricultural sector. I am confident that number that fall into this category is significantly above 1 in 50 leave voters.. Thems folks is a thick as pig !

 

[Clive]

It is fair to say the inverse would be equally true had things gone the other way..

I don't believe all Leavers are stupid, some like yourself are looking forward and can see opportunities from Brexit. I could easily be a leaver if I could see us leaving in such a way as to not leave our sector in real . The leave voters that are stupid are those that based their decision on single issues like immigration or those that believe Brexit means a step back in time to a time of less regulation, a time when we had a population and a government that respected and protected its agricultural sector. I am confident that number that fall into this category is significantly above 1 in 50 leave voters.. Thems folks is a thick as pig !

You are the exception in that view I feel rather sadly - I think the very worst thing about this entire Brexit issue has been the attitude of those that didn't get the result they wanted towards those that did, Right and wrongs of the situation/politics aside it's exposed a lot of people as the spoilt brats wth a superiority complex they clearly are unfortunately that until Brexit was kept far better hidden

People (even thick people) are entitled to an opinion in a democracy and that should be respected, I'm not sure a true democracy should have some sort of IQ test before voting! If people wanted out for a single issue or just simply because thy "felt" it was the right thing then that is their prerogative and it deserves the same respect as anyone else's

 

[farmerm]

You are the exception in that view I feel rather sadly - I think the very worst thing about this entire Brexit issue has been the attitude of those that didn't get the result they wanted towards those that did, Right and wrongs of the situation/politics aside it's exposed a lot of people as the spoilt brats wth a superiority complex they clearly are unfortunately that until Brexit was kept far better hidden

People (even thick people) are entitled to an opinion in a democracy and that should be respected, I'm not sure a true democracy should have some sort of IQ test before voting! If people wanted out for a single issue or just simply because thy "felt" it was the right thing then that is their prerogative and it deserves the same respect as anyone else's

I do wonder if think there should be some sort of IQ test to become an MP, our elected MP's should be the people that are trusted and capability of running the country in the best interests of all...

I hope to be proven wrong but all the evidence leads me to the conclusion that Brexit, especially the current no EU deal, free trade with the world offering, will be highly damaging to UK farmers. Clive can you tell us what potential upshots leaving the EU offers to UK farmers? I keep asking the question but the other leave farmers on the forum have so far offered us nothing other than faith and fairies or the frustratingly naïve "well it cant be any worse"!

 

[Clive]

I do wonder if think there should be some sort of IQ test to become an MP, our elected MP's should be the people that are trusted and capability of running the country in the best interests of all...

I hope to be proven wrong but all the evidence leads me to the conclusion that Brexit, especially the current no EU deal, free trade with the world offering, will be highly damaging to UK farmers. Clive can you tell us what potential upshots leaving the EU offers to UK farmers? I keep asking the question but the other leave farmers on the forum have so far offered us nothing other than faith and fairies or the frustratingly naïve "well it cant be any worse"!

I don't want to get into a Brexit debate (don't have time !) but the truth is no one REALY know if it will end up being a good or bad thing ................. only time will answer that with certainty

I agree with MP's needing to be MUCH higher caliber, they should have at least 10yrs of successful company or organisation management experience before being allowed to stand

 

[Henarar]

I do wonder if think there should be some sort of IQ test to become an MP, our elected MP's should be the people that are trusted and capability of running the country in the best interests of all...

plenty of very bright well educated people about that would probably do very well in an iq test but haven't got much common sense at all

 

[Nithsdale]

If we lose this battle we will NEVER leave the EU.

No country can now leave the EU unless ALL the other EU country's agree!

May left triggering article 50 until the very last day she could, if she had left it one more day she would not have been able to trigger article 50 because the EU had changed the law banning country's from doing this from the following day!

Good job you were not around in 1939/40 as Hitler would have walked straight into the UK with attitudes like yours!

Godwin's Law at its finest.

 

[7610 super q]

I'm learning to play the bagpipes.

 

[Henarar]

I'm learning to play the bagpipes.

Is it as difficult as it looks

 

[Muck Spreader]

I agree with MP's needing to be MUCH higher caliber, they should have at least 10yrs of successful company or organisation management experience before being allowed to stand

You will have to be prepared to pay them serious money and make the appointment of MP's a full time position and not just a lobbying opportunity. Although, I am unclear as to why you think a bunch of second rate 'dragons' would be so much better. A modern societies needs are way more complex than the average SME, even Trump is beginning to realise this.

 

[7610 super q]

Is it as difficult as it looks

Yes. But Brexit preparation is never easy.

 

[Muck Spreader]

I got the family gas masks down from the loft.

Is this for when the sh!t hits the fan!

 

[Henarar]

Yes. But Brexit preparation is never easy.

stick at it
once brexit is done and the scots go for and get independence then they will not be allowed to come down and play the pipes [we all know this is what they spend all their time doing] and you will have the market cornered
one thing, have you done your research is there much call for bagpipe playing outside Scotland ?

 

[Highland Mule]

If we lose this battle we will NEVER leave the EU.

No country can now leave the EU unless ALL the other EU country's agree!

May left triggering article 50 until the very last day she could, if she had left it one more day she would not have been able to trigger article 50 because the EU had changed the law banning country's from doing this from the following day!

Evidence for this assertion please. Nothing in the legal text of Art 50 requires EU agreement to leave.