Australia rejects free movement plan with UK

Muck Spreader · Jan 7, 2020

Apparently, they don't like the idea of thousands of low skilled Brits turning up on their shores post Brexit.
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/australia-rejects-visa-free-immigration-deal-with-uk/

caveman · Jan 7, 2020

Well. That's a shame.
How do they intend to stop their coolest, brightest and best being encouraged to come here?

Danllan · Jan 7, 2020

Muck Spreader said:
Apparently, they don't like the idea of thousands of low skilled Brits turning up on their shores post Brexit.
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/australia-rejects-visa-free-immigration-deal-with-uk/

So what? We want free trade and desirable immigration, this sounds like it's what the Ozzies want too.

Pasty · Jan 8, 2020

Who wants free movement anyway? I don't and don't blame them either.

manhill · Jan 9, 2020

As I picked up a bit of Ursula speaking on the radio, free movement has to be part of any trade deal. Sounds like this pillar is not negotiable. If this is the case, it's surely got to be a hard Brexit now and all the negotiating since Article 50 has just been a waste of time. What's happening here?

BoltonDynamite · Jan 9, 2020

Australia has its own set of immigration rules that work quite well for them and don't stop skilled UK workers from finding work there. Why change it to let in the UK's unskilled (even if the cost of getting there is inhibitive in itself)?

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2020

Free movement needs to stop.

Agrivator · Jan 9, 2020

Australia is not at all attractive to folk on low wages. The cost of living, including housing, is much more expensive than in the UK.
And the beer, by all accounts is terrible.

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2020

Trade deals do not involve any kind of political union or free movement or any other claptrap. You will not get the USA or NZ or Canada agreeing to that neither should the UK. Companies wanting foreign staff should be obliged to sponsor them as would happen in many other parts of the world.

Danllan · Jan 9, 2020

manhill said:
As I picked up a bit of Ursula speaking on the radio, free movement has to be part of any trade deal. Sounds like this pillar is not negotiable. If this is the case, it's surely got to be a hard Brexit now and all the negotiating since Article 50 has just been a waste of time. What's happening here?

It's all 'imperative', 'mandatory' or 'impossible', until that tactic doesn't work and it isn't.

Agrivator said:
...And the beer, by all accounts is terrible.

And often served in effeminately small glasses.

(But I do like Oz and the Ozzies

)

le bon paysan · Jan 9, 2020

manhill said:
As I picked up a bit of Ursula speaking on the radio, free movement has to be part of any trade deal. Sounds like this pillar is not negotiable. If this is the case, it's surely got to be a hard Brexit now and all the negotiating since Article 50 has just been a waste of time. What's happening here?

Not quite, she said to have the same access as now required free movement. Not some access . Also that the same regulatory standards were needed for animal / agriculture for open access to the EU market.
A Canada type deal is where it appears Boris is heading.

Muck Spreader · Jan 9, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Trade deals do not involve any kind of political union or free movement or any other claptrap. You will not get the USA or NZ or Canada agreeing to that neither should the UK. Companies wanting foreign staff should be obliged to sponsor them as would happen in many other parts of the world.

I think you will find that the EU trade deal with India was halted by the UK refusing any agreement on free movement with them. Presumably now the UK has confirmed it's leaving that's way the talks are already back on.

rob1 · Jan 9, 2020

Muck Spreader said:
I think you will find that the EU trade deal with India was halted by the UK refusing any agreement on free movement with them. Presumably now the UK has confirmed it's leaving that's way the talks are already back on.

I doubt too many indians want to go anywhere apart from the UK

stewart · Jan 9, 2020

rob1 said:
I doubt too many indians want to go anywhere apart from the UK

Indians go all over the world, not just the UK.

capfits · Jan 9, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Free movement needs to stop.

@ollie989898 why do you say that?

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2020

capfits said:
@ollie989898 why do you say that?

Errrr why exactly should anyone be able to move freely to another country?

capfits · Jan 9, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Errrr why exactly should anyone be able to move freely to another country?

Think the boat sailed quite literally a few millennia ago..
So why should we stop free movement?

stewart · Jan 9, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Errrr why exactly should anyone be able to move freely to another country?

Like Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2020

stewart said:
Like Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

That is clearly a different proposition and you know it.

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2020

capfits said:
Think the boat sailed quite literally a few millennia ago..
So why should we stop free movement?

Err security concerns to begin with.

More to the point, exactly how many people should be trying to live in the UK? Would you agree that the infrastructure and public services are about at capacity?

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