Drilling anyone?

radar

Member
Mixed Farmer
The only drilling around here will be with a Black and Decker! Sitting having lunch and field opposite has water running down the old tramlines from a spring-line that has erupted to the surface. WET!!
 

Barry

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Hi, but the data from breeders resulting in latest safe dates is just what you say.

I do not know but may ask if I come across any of the breeders how many trials they would need to give more definitive local information because to be any more specific than it is now I suspect requires quite a lot of sites. And then there would have to be a reasonable / considerable safety margin built into any advice as my observation is a farmer demands information, but then is soon to complain / claim if it goes wrong. And I cannot see any breeder or HGCA to have claims lined up based on ever speculative latest safe dates.

I have seen winter wheat not vernalise - and it just stayed as flag leaf. Was used to finish off a spring wheat heaadland.

Best wishes,

I am not sure just more trial sites are going to help it is more about the variation between years as well. So having done a fair bit of spring drilling of winter wheat trials we have worked with RAGT such that they have moved to 1st week of March on Skyfall as latest safe sowing date. Fortunately Skyfall has stuck around for a number of years and been a significant part of the market.

But a lot of varieties are in and gone in a few years so you don't really have enough of a data base to make any judgement other than stick with end Jan. Some breeders have made some comparisons between their varieties and decided that variety x is ok to go in a little later than variety y. Hence you get some being ok until mid Feb. But they will always err on the side of caution because to get it wrong is a major major cost! And maybe global warming makes the risk a bit greater than it was 25 years ago..
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
they will always err on the side of caution because to get it wrong is a major major cost!

Major cost to reputation, certainly, but financially it'll probably be force majeure and caveat emptor all over again, as it was with Moulin.

Fortunately, we look like being all drilled up here by (End Jan) because not only has the weather knackered my TV signal but Brisel has objected to my first priority, which was to be getting on with the N.

Why couldn't we all have had a week or so of high pressure sometime in October?
 
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Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Major cost to reputation, certainly, but financially it'll probably be force majeure and caveat emptor all over again, as it was with Moulin.

Fortunately, we look like being all drilled up by (End Jan) because not only has the weather knackered my TV signal but Brisel has objected to my first priority, which was to be getting on with the N.

Why couldn't we all have had a week of high pressure sometime in October?
Why is your farm not grass?
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
Not intentionally then?!

No, the fact is that it's much quicker and easier, or has been since the 1947 Agriculture Act, to pay down debt in an arable system than it is in a grass system.

Even where profits are higher in a grass system, they tend to become embedded in livestock valuations and new buildings, whereas arable systems are out of stock every once a year.

All the land we currently farm has been bought and paid for (almost!) twice over at open-market prices, first from various third parties and second from members of the family reinvesting elsewhere.

Our latest cunning plan is to align all the remaining debt repayments year by year exactly with the tailing off of the BPS..


After that, let the re-wilding commence.

:playful::playful::playful::playful::playful:
 
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JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
I might have started ploughing a day earlier than I said. We have gone through the worse bit on a headland where we started and now going reasonably well. Another field of 8 acres will be ploughed tomorrow with 200hp on 4 furrows hopefully!
A wet patch this year is alway going to be a wet patch, when 95% of the field is ok ish then need to crack on.
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JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
He has been struggling in places across other parts of the field, firm where trailers have run and hard going plus that field is on a bank which ever way you plough it.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
There’s wheat going in around us at the moment very unusual for the time of year but it’s great conditions for it there’s even dust flying
I'm tempted to stick some wheat in going on doom and gloom on here.

Ploughing fields at home out of ley and heavily mucked, ground in good condition. Would just need to buy seed.

Going to be spring barley galore at harvest.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I might have started ploughing a day earlier than I said. We have gone through the worse bit on a headland where we started and now going reasonably well. Another field of 8 acres will be ploughed tomorrow with 200hp on 4 furrows hopefully!
A wet patch this year is alway going to be a wet patch, when 95% of the field is ok ish then need to crack on.

We always have 200hp on four furrows. Sigh. No ploughing going on here.
 

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