Dairy Farm Jobs??? Interesting reaction!

Samherd · Mar 7, 2020

I have a friend who is really experienced on a large dairy (family farm) who has recently said he wanted to come back in the trade after a year out.... (have to say he's one of the most reliable people ever and knowledgeable to)
I read alot in the media, on this forum and all over about farmers especially dairy finding it hard to find good head herdsman or herdsman,... I said to him to apply to some farms and see how he gets on.... So he has and to literally no avail at all... I was quite shocked by this as the industry really does need good stockman and dairy especially
All the farms he applied to were advertising herdsman or head herdsman jobs.
One of them he went back twice and offered to milk their herd, having never used a rotary parlour before he milked 650 head of cattle without one mistake, even finding mastitis cows etc in the process as he was on the rotary for over 2 hours non stop.... This guy is a machine for sure.... I've had him at mine a few times and he's great, unfortunately can't take him on full time...
What makes me laugh is for people who really want a good stockman, and herdsman, and they moan and moan that they can't find good staff to help them and work alongside them and then one comes along and it doesn't seem like they are interested so they go back to moaning again, and when a good one comes along they pass them by, he hasn't even had a reply from the farm since.... Makes me actually quite angry.... Especially when someone has the get up and go to do the industry and the job in a good way.... Some people need to open there eyes and see what is in front of them for sure.

som farmer · Mar 8, 2020

we cannot even find a reliable relief milker, nor can we get to much outside parlour worker, tried various agencies, no luck, the biggest problem we have, is accommodation, we haven't any. Have come to the conclusion, to simplify the system, cut cow numbers, and manage on our own. But there are plenty of jobs out there, farmers have become cautious in advertising, adverts very often, get on a national list, then you get all the tossers from the 'social' apply, so they can show they are 'looking' for work. Try one of the consultancy firms, they will know.

Samherd · Mar 8, 2020

som farmer said:
we cannot even find a reliable relief milker, nor can we get to much outside parlour worker, tried various agencies, no luck, the biggest problem we have, is accommodation, we haven't any. Have come to the conclusion, to simplify the system, cut cow numbers, and manage on our own. But there are plenty of jobs out there, farmers have become cautious in advertising, adverts very often, get on a national list, then you get all the tossers from the 'social' apply, so they can show they are 'looking' for work. Try one of the consultancy firms, they will know.

Yeah I told him to go through LKL? Didn't know if this was the best idea, do you know of any other consultants that are good to go to

Dead Rabbits · Mar 8, 2020

I’m pretty sure I could have a job within a couple days of being in your country.

Don’t know a thing about your friend but he must not be making good impressions or something. If I’m in a position to be choosey I pick new team members on how they will fit into the team.

Just keep trying, he will find something.

betweenthelines · Mar 8, 2020

Is the OP's friend just a bit too good?

Lots of people who run their own business (not just farmers) just want staff who will do as they're told and work long hours!

Staff who express an opinion are sometimes seen as challenging the boss's authority, and having people work long hours is often seen as getting value for money.

It takes a big man to ask a worker on a wage (usually a lot younger) "Well, what do you think?"

Seen people lose their jobs because they "know too much"

som farmer · Mar 8, 2020

Neilherd said:
Yeah I told him to go through LKL? Didn't know if this was the best idea, do you know of any other consultants that are good to go to

farm consultancy, very active, phil cooper, the man to speak to

Werzle · Mar 8, 2020

Neilherd said:
I have a friend who is really experienced on a large dairy (family farm) who has recently said he wanted to come back in the trade after a year out.... (have to say he's one of the most reliable people ever and knowledgeable to)
I read alot in the media, on this forum and all over about farmers especially dairy finding it hard to find good head herdsman or herdsman,... I said to him to apply to some farms and see how he gets on.... So he has and to literally no avail at all... I was quite shocked by this as the industry really does need good stockman and dairy especially
All the farms he applied to were advertising herdsman or head herdsman jobs.
One of them he went back twice and offered to milk their herd, having never used a rotary parlour before he milked 650 head of cattle without one mistake, even finding mastitis cows etc in the process as he was on the rotary for over 2 hours non stop.... This guy is a machine for sure.... I've had him at mine a few times and he's great, unfortunately can't take him on full time...
What makes me laugh is for people who really want a good stockman, and herdsman, and they moan and moan that they can't find good staff to help them and work alongside them and then one comes along and it doesn't seem like they are interested so they go back to moaning again, and when a good one comes along they pass them by, he hasn't even had a reply from the farm since.... Makes me actually quite angry.... Especially when someone has the get up and go to do the industry and the job in a good way.... Some people need to open there eyes and see what is in front of them for sure.

Perhaps they cannot meet his wage demands

honeyend · Mar 8, 2020

Sometimes they want someone with not as much experience so they can offer them less, and 'train them up'. I wonder if they are thinking 'if he is so good why does he want to do this', sometimes they are looking for a reason and not everyone is truthful.
If there is an agency I would join one, or freelance, it gives you time to work out who is good to work for, and collect contacts. He might even be paid more and not be working long hours.

yellowfrog · Mar 8, 2020

in spite of all the progressive and modern farmers that appear on here andall about it still comes back to that's the way its allways been done . everything is fine until somone suggests a better way then farmer/manager gets the hump. seen it happen time and time again on some quite big concerns

Adam@Rumen · Mar 8, 2020

Sounds surprising.

Someone I know visited 3 local places that were advertising for an assistant herdsman, they all offered him the job on the spot.

Princess Pooper · Mar 8, 2020

som farmer said:
we cannot even find a reliable relief milker, nor can we get to much outside parlour worker, tried various agencies, no luck, the biggest problem we have, is accommodation, we haven't any. Have come to the conclusion, to simplify the system, cut cow numbers, and manage on our own. But there are plenty of jobs out there, farmers have become cautious in advertising, adverts very often, get on a national list, then you get all the tossers from the 'social' apply, so they can show they are 'looking' for work. Try one of the consultancy firms, they will know.

Can you put a mobile home on site?

som farmer · Mar 8, 2020

Princess Pooper said:
Can you put a mobile home on site?

yes, and have done, had a polish lad and family here, but he was brilliant working with someone, the opposite on his own, we found a 'team' that worked with him in a team, and they were/are pleased as punch with him ! Mobile had to go, when we built a bungalow, for son and family, the locals are unco-operative to say the least. Any one that is good, either, if foreign, doesn't like to be 'on their own', and if british, want a bit better than a mobile ! We will keep on looking for help, which around us is very hard to find, and keep simplifying our system, which will be a very tight spr block, of 130, and outwinter. This sprg everything that calves after 6 apr, will be sold, apart from some carried over cows, we will have calved between 20 feb, and 6 april, and still have 150/60, with 63 hfrs to bull for next spring ¬!!!!

kiwi pom · Mar 8, 2020

betweenthelines said:
Is the OP's friend just a bit too good?

Lots of people who run their own business (not just farmers) just want staff who will do as they're told and work long hours!

Staff who express an opinion are sometimes seen as challenging the boss's authority, and having people work long hours is often seen as getting value for money.

It takes a big man to ask a worker on a wage (usually a lot younger) "Well, what do you think?"

Seen people lose their jobs because they "know too much"

I think the saying is.

A's hire A's B's hire C's

Grassman247 · Mar 9, 2020

We have just advertised for a trainee farm worker at 28k plus accommodation, either a mobile home or a flat in the local village depending on what suits the candidate best.

The response to the advert has been unbelievable, 10 applicants in 2 days.

It’s fantastic to see such a response to recruitment after so many years of what seemed an uphill struggle

Ducati899 · Mar 9, 2020

Where do I send my cv?

Headless chicken · Mar 10, 2020

betweenthelines said:
Is the OP's friend just a bit too good?

Lots of people who run their own business (not just farmers) just want staff who will do as they're told and work long hours!

Staff who express an opinion are sometimes seen as challenging the boss's authority, and having people work long hours is often seen as getting value for money.

It takes a big man to ask a worker on a wage (usually a lot younger) "Well, what do you think?"

Seen people lose their jobs because they "know too much"

does it? I expect active feed back from everyone of my team. If I wanted something to give no opinion and just milk I’d put a robot in.

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