Soil washing away

I agree with you Jonathan, and the main observation from the map is that Autumn run off appears to be most prolific in areas producing Autumn/Winter cropping (maize, beet, potatoes, veg). Simple improvements like undersowing maize goes a long way to improving run off. I see no reason why sowing a cover crop in the wheelings of row crops shouldn't be implemented either. It would improve field traffic conditions, plant biodiversity and help rebalance the pest/predator insect population. Why anyone would let such valuable land wash away is a mystery to me? But as the supermarkets say, when it's gone, it's gone - and they know a thing or two about devaluing something precious.
Give us a clue ,what you can grow down tatie baulks ,or tulip beds and onion beds that wont interfere with harvesting ,or mechanical weeding ,
great idea , what should we grow and how ,
 

Hindsight

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If you're seriously into some land history, look into how the "dry warped" the land around Lindolme. The excavated the silt, carted it by wagon, and levelled it a foot deep. EA would have shat themselves.

Been done more recently than that. A few years ago one of the Holbeach Marsh farmers dug pits into the light silt which is found at depth under the heavier silts and spread it 4 inches deep across a few fields.
 

DRC

Member
the irony is that farmers and farming organisations blame the EA for not dredging

little consideration as to how the slit gets there

under polluter pays legislation this is going to get VERY expensive for root and maize growers or those that love their ploughing
Ha ha very funny. Ploughed land here has a decent crop growing on it, whereas I’ve seen some disastrous no till recently, that has no crop due to poor establishment and slugs.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I think the plough is getting an unfair slating. Plenty of fields about with a feed rack in the middle of a swamp ( especially in this year of straw " saving " ), stubble turnip fields resembling the Somme, and the worst in this part of the world is winter veg and a free range chicken outfit with feed wagons and pullets in, and manure out of fields 24/7.
 

AT Aloss

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Give us a clue ,what you can grow down tatie baulks ,or tulip beds and onion beds that wont interfere with harvesting ,or mechanical weeding ,
great idea , what should we grow and how ,
There's a few French potato growers using phacelia, radish & clovers (I think) placing seed in the wheeling with a gravity seeder, like a rotor meter.
Benoit Leforestier has used peas as a companion, the roots improve the soil structure & therefore drainage between the rows but the plants are fully matured at harvest causing few problems with machinery.
 
Warp is another word for silt.
Tesla what about vermuyden , he did a lot of warping on the Humber / Ouse , built banks round field and let the tide in then let it drain slowly off leaving a layer of silt.
 

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There's a few French potato growers using phacelia, radish & clovers (I think) placing seed in the wheeling with a gravity seeder, like a rotor meter.
Benoit Leforestier has used peas as a companion, the roots improve the soil structure & therefore drainage between the rows but the plants are fully matured at harvest causing few problems with machinery.
Depends what will grow with the pre Em herbs they use Will ask the question
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Tesla what about vermuyden , he did a lot of warping on the Humber / Ouse , built banks round field and let the tide in then let it drain slowly off leaving a layer of silt.

Yup.

Lots of land round here was warped - Gainsborough being about the furthest extent of it. If you know what you're looking for you can find or figure where the warping drains are. They reckoned on the humberhead levels you could warp 9" of silt in a year.

But the warping like this was obviously limited by how far turgid water will travel. Hence the warping near lindolm was "dry" warped.

The last warping round there was at medge hall near crowle after ww1.

Much of the vermuden drains were not great. My 5x great grandfather was the first to plough some fresh drained land at what is now Potteric Carr nature reserve. Was so boggy he built shoes for the horses to make the surface area much larger.
 

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