- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
And sprayer operator certificates?
Commingle.......
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Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Sprayer operator certificates first came in around 30 years ago, initially for those under a certain age and for contractors, with grandfather rights for older operators.
Grand father rights were done away with 10 years or so ago now so all sprayer operators need to be qualified.
yes you need one of them ive had mine since 1989 and before assurance schemes were born,did the practical using a Massey 590 and a a Hardy 12 metre 600 ltr
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
operator certs not an extra for RT then
Tbh, I partly came here to get away from this kind of stuff. Rather annoyingly, my wife signed us up to “label rouge”. At our first control, I was probably still muttering... it was pointed out that all the criteria were eigher a legal requirement or certainly a condition to receive our subsidy and it the LR found anything they would tell us and we could correct it, if the others found it they would either fine us or make a deduction from our subsidy
Tbh, I partly came here to get away from this kind of stuff. Rather annoyingly, my wife signed us up to “label rouge”. At our first control, I was probably still muttering... it was pointed out that all the criteria were eigher a legal requirement or certainly a condition to receive our subsidy and it the LR found anything they would tell us and we could correct it, if the others found it they would either fine us or make a deduction from our subsidy
no.
and i don't need them to tell me when a job is well done either.
and i don't need them to tell me when a job is well done either.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
No, but I had to supply 3 numbers to RT as a contractor does my spraying, one was his operator number, one related to his sprayer test and I haven’t a clue what the third was foroperator certs nit an extra for RT then
his Nroso membership/cert. no. i expect
NSTS number for the sprayer
NRoSO number for the operator
Relevant PA certificate numbers for the operator (operator certificates are a legal requirement)
Oot of interest, I was chatting with a neighbour yesterday and the topic moved to spraying and CPD requirements....
Is it a legal requirement to renew or update PA1, PA2 etc for personal farm usage?
No shelf life on PA tickets because NROSO covers the updates/CPD unlike forklift, chainsaw etc
I agree with the OP about Guy Smith - I think that many of us are very disappointed in his stance on Red Tractor.
Less surprising is the piece by Jim Moseley in the same Farmers Weekly article - most of what he said was predictable given his position as Chief Exec of Red Tractor, but he finishes with a blatant lie - that the scheme is voluntary
As a grower of sugar beet and malting barley this is factually incorrect. There are no non assured markets available. Hence it is a compulsory scheme.
Less surprising is the piece by Jim Moseley in the same Farmers Weekly article - most of what he said was predictable given his position as Chief Exec of Red Tractor, but he finishes with a blatant lie - that the scheme is voluntary
As a grower of sugar beet and malting barley this is factually incorrect. There are no non assured markets available. Hence it is a compulsory scheme.
Let @Guy Smith get into the job, guys. It doesn’t get fixed on day one. Judge actions, not words. I can’t blame Guy for not answering every post slagging him or his job off.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
I hope Guy really gets his teeth into it.
Too many previous figureheads have promised a lot and delivered very little that farmers have actually seen. Groceries Code Adjudicator and Red Tape Tsar Richard MacDonald for two examples off the top of my head.
- Location
- North Wales
Guy says that Weetabix won't be happy with a RT lite scheme, well they'd better put their hand in their pocket, or the till, and pay more for it then so they're paying a premium that makes it worthwhile for the grower.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Weetabix have their own growers group of just 350 farms, only open to growers within 50 miles of Northampton.
It’s not representative of the whole UK cereal sector in any way.
Warburtons who have one too and specify in that you must buy their seed, and apply no liquid fert protein spray.
Both of these are now run by Frontier.
So why don’t Weetabix just add whatever they want to their contract and that can be that. It then becomes truly voluntary, and a free choice if you think the premium is worth the hassle.
AsI understand it, despite their similarities shown above, Warburtons use imported Canadian wheat in their bread. Therefore no Red Tractor logo can be used...? So they clearly don’t care for it on their “premium” product despite having a special UK Growers Group.
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- Location
- North Wales
If Weetabix added their own requirements to the contract then they would harbour the cost of checks. As it is the farmer covers the cost through RT, win win for them.
I expect that you will be delighted to learn that the Grocery Code Adjudicator Tsar, Christine Tacon, is to be the new Chairman of Red Tractor
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Are you lining yourself up for the next job!?