Depends on the bigger picture across the farm, FYM will be best used where soil OM levels are low, think of digestate as a replacement for bagged fert in the spring.
Fym or Digestate?
- Thread starter teslacoils
- Start date
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
I tend to think you should go with the monetary value of the nutrients in the two options. Replacing expensive bagged N could be the best option? I have never used digestate but would agree FYM makes an autumn drilled crop look better but that doesn’t always translate to the bottom line IMO. Either is better than nothing though!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Access to both, so good position to be in. Fym will be more expensive per nutrient, but adds more fibre which I could do with.
- Location
- Darlington
With all this rain at the moment I am quite happy to have a bit of fym in the soil hopefully hanging on to some nutrients.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I'm looking forward to spreading on fym and ploughing over bouncy, fibrous grass ley for huge wheat crops, not looking out at the mushy yak it currently is.
- Location
- Darlington
I don't have enough fym to generate bouncy fibrous.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I don't have enough fym to generate bouncy fibrous.
I'm using my rosiest of rose tinted glasses.
d williams
Member
That won’t be the digestate fault that would be the fault of the management
livestock 1
Member
Was at a farm the other day and all calves had not to suck their mothers due to ecoli
Second farm I’ve heard of with this issue
Digestate on both
- Location
- Darlington
My downer with digestate is the huge amount of liquid that comes with it. Unfortunately being well down the food chain we only get the option of it in autumn. Tankered on. Spring via umbilical on to my arable crops would be my preference.
d williams
Member
There could be several reasons but I doubt very much it the digestate is the problem if been applied as recommended
I think there’s some issues with grass cut last spring that had slurry /digestate coating still on leaf with lack rainfall to wash
d williams
Member
That’s not the best use of digestate with that time ing you couldn’t store to use at a better time ??
The company supplying you is just looking to empty their storage facilities for winter months and just using you by the look of it
- Location
- Lincolnshire
40 cube would be a dose here in spring. It's not too much juice. We don't get the option when it goes on - just when it's dry enough to go.
It's good stuff. The lack of control is an issue. Nothing is perfect.
livestock 1
Member
Definitely is the digestate.
FarmerBruce
Member
- Location
- Yorkshire
Lather it on!!!
d williams
Member
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If it's found to be the digestate there'd be a fair claim going into plant that supplied it and if found to be at fault shut down
What fuel source is this plant running on quite a bold statement
Chae1
Member
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
That's why I'm not nervous about taking it. The digestor is being fed on natural products grown in a field. The same as a cow is.
There will always be scare stories. Probably spread by those that sell fertiliser.
d williams
Member
There's also a lot of tests being done right through the process
The application is the art to getting digestate to work along with crop needs at the right time
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Slightly off topic but related, I watched a really interesting film last night on Amazon Prime called Dark Waters.
It the story of how DuPont knowingly released PFOA, often referred to as C8 which was used in the manufacturing of Teflon into water and the atmosphere, that 99% of the entire world’s human population now have in their bodies!
Researching it further after watching the film, our own beloved EA have a fair bit to say about it in the UK. Especially were sewerage sludge is used in large concentrations. Maps showing where it is found here in the U.K. place me in a particularly high hotspot.
Interestingly, if you heat a pan coated with Teflon to about 300c or scratch it while it is hot with metal, gasses are released that cause something called Teflon Flu which is remarkably similar to all the symptoms and effects of Covid 19!
Looking further into it all, DuPont started in 1802, but reinvented itself in 2017. Was this as some attempt to try to avoid having to pay Billions of $ in compensation claims for those have/will suffer the many cancers and deformities PFOA’s and Teflon have caused?
Suffice to say that I won’t be using sewerage sludge here and will think carefully before using any DuPont/Corteva’s products.
It the story of how DuPont knowingly released PFOA, often referred to as C8 which was used in the manufacturing of Teflon into water and the atmosphere, that 99% of the entire world’s human population now have in their bodies!
Researching it further after watching the film, our own beloved EA have a fair bit to say about it in the UK. Especially were sewerage sludge is used in large concentrations. Maps showing where it is found here in the U.K. place me in a particularly high hotspot.
Interestingly, if you heat a pan coated with Teflon to about 300c or scratch it while it is hot with metal, gasses are released that cause something called Teflon Flu which is remarkably similar to all the symptoms and effects of Covid 19!
Looking further into it all, DuPont started in 1802, but reinvented itself in 2017. Was this as some attempt to try to avoid having to pay Billions of $ in compensation claims for those have/will suffer the many cancers and deformities PFOA’s and Teflon have caused?
Suffice to say that I won’t be using sewerage sludge here and will think carefully before using any DuPont/Corteva’s products.
livestock 1
Member
The problem has cropped up since using the digestate x 2 farms.
Now you can be Sherlock Holmes or whatever you like the fact still remains that it’s likely the ecoli is appearing in fodder. Now we all know very well that once anything is spread it requires correct time and conditions to uptake into the plant.
I only posted this as fair warning nothing to do with bold statements I could be quite possibly wrong but unfortunately I’m not convinced I am