Will you keep wearing a mask when you don't have to?

Still wear mask when not compulsory?

  • Yup

    Votes: 75 33.6%
  • Nay

    Votes: 148 66.4%

  • Total voters
    223

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
I honestly don't see the need for someone to adopt a tone approaching civil disobedience over this. It's a fudging mask and some school testing. It's hardly that onerous and I can't quite see how even a big controlling government can gain anything from it. It's not the same as rounding folk up at night and putting them on trains to the gulags in Wales or something.

Seriously. If you want to feck with the virus, go you ahead. I'd rather not infect anyone else or the rest of my family if I can help it.

'I won't wear a mask' is akin to telling that cashier at the garage forecourt you couldn't give a flying fig about her health. I doubt she is paid danger money for dealing with goons. If businesses want to refuse service to people who won't wear a mask in their premises, I'm fine with that. What about hairdressers/barbers the like? No one expects them to risk their own health whilst providing the services they do?

This post pretty much sums it up, thanks
 

The Agrarian

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
I honestly don't see the need for someone to adopt a tone approaching civil disobedience over this. It's a fudging mask and some school testing. It's hardly that onerous and I can't quite see how even a big controlling government can gain anything from it. It's not the same as rounding folk up at night and putting them on trains to the gulags in Wales or something.

Seriously. If you want to feck with the virus, go you ahead. I'd rather not infect anyone else or the rest of my family if I can help it.

'I won't wear a mask' is akin to telling that cashier at the garage forecourt you couldn't give a flying fig about her health. I doubt she is paid danger money for dealing with goons. If businesses want to refuse service to people who won't wear a mask in their premises, I'm fine with that. What about hairdressers/barbers the like? No one expects them to risk their own health whilst providing the services they do?

Same here. I wear a mask going into a shop, because I'm required to do so. I don't like wearing it, and I am fairly sceptical about the benefits of doing so. But I am prepared to go along with it, not because I am a spineless, weak-minded doormat, but because to not do so is to show willful arrogance in the face of people dying from the disease. It also breeds contempt for the genuine efforts of government to control the disease. And it's a signal that, if even one vulnerable person in the whole pandemic was saved by me not passing the disease on to them, either directly or indirectly, then the year of mask wearing would have been worth it. Have some compassion folks.
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
Same here. I wear a mask going into a shop, because I'm required to do so. I don't like wearing it, and I am fairly sceptical about the benefits of doing so. But I am prepared to go along with it, not because I am a spineless, weak-minded doormat, but because to not do so is to show willful arrogance in the face of people dying from the disease. It also breeds contempt for the genuine efforts of government to control the disease. And it's a signal that, if even one vulnerable person in the whole pandemic was saved by me not passing the disease on to them, either directly or indirectly, then the year of mask wearing would have been worth it. Have some compassion folks.
Did you start wearing a mask on national mask day?
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
80000 smoking deaths a year. Every year. Smoking not banned.

30000 obesity deaths a year. McDonald's not banned.

10000 alcohol direct deaths a year. Alcohol not banned.

Don't think they are for your health or the health of others in the working age population. The govt is not doing this for the benefit of your health. The level of social control now in place is mind boggling. As is the widespread acceptance. Any attempt to question it generates the same reaction as saying the earth is flat.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Just saying that if the government cares so much for people's health....

Perhaps obese people should have their children taken into care to protect their future health? You can pass on heritable diseases. Perhaps those people with high likelihood of passing on certain health defects shouldn't be allowed to breed?

The "needs of the many" argument is not a good one. Govt is rubbing it's hands. No crime, no demonstrations, no fires as everyone's at home, no traffic. Easy life. Just bring out a scientist every fortnight and jobs a good un.
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
If you believe in masks then to only start wearing them on national mask day, rather than when told of the need to, is to "show wilful arrogance in the face of people dying" ?
Because that's what the overwhelming majority of people did.
 

zero

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorkshire coast
80000 smoking deaths a year. Every year. Smoking not banned.

30000 obesity deaths a year. McDonald's not banned.

10000 alcohol direct deaths a year. Alcohol not banned.

Don't think they are for your health or the health of others in the working age population. The govt is not doing this for the benefit of your health. The level of social control now in place is mind boggling. As is the widespread acceptance. Any attempt to question it generates the same reaction as saying the earth is flat.
Was it Orwell who wrote the best way to control the people is with cheap food and entertainment?
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Just saying that if the government cares so much for people's health....

Perhaps obese people should have their children taken into care to protect their future health? You can pass on heritable diseases. Perhaps those people with high likelihood of passing on certain health defects shouldn't be allowed to breed?

The "needs of the many" argument is not a good one. Govt is rubbing it's hands. No crime, no demonstrations, no fires as everyone's at home, no traffic. Easy life. Just bring out a scientist every fortnight and jobs a good un.
You will obviously be on the Governments hitlist now for putting this down but you are 100% right. It’s control of the population by fear and Governments around the world are turning to the tried and trusted methods much favoured by Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Communist China. We just need a few re.education camps for non mask wearers and it will all be good. There is no escape the borders are closed.
 
80000 smoking deaths a year. Every year. Smoking not banned.

30000 obesity deaths a year. McDonald's not banned.

10000 alcohol direct deaths a year. Alcohol not banned.

Don't think they are for your health or the health of others in the working age population. The govt is not doing this for the benefit of your health. The level of social control now in place is mind boggling. As is the widespread acceptance. Any attempt to question it generates the same reaction as saying the earth is flat.


None of this has ever been about the number of deaths. I've explained many times on this forum that the number of deaths was never the sole concern of the government. If it could be computer modelled, I bet the number of deaths each country genuinely has by the end of this was probably always going to be what it was going to be regardless of what measures were taken. We know that UK populace is pretty unhealthy- over 60% of adults are obese or overweight. We know the incidence of diabetes, respiratory and cardiovascular disease because they are extensively recorded and have been for years. We also know that at portions of our society were genuine morons who were going to disobey government/medical warnings and continue to behave in a way that spread the virus. I don't think any of us here are genuinely surprised at the scale of the infection in the UK nor in comparable European countries- we have a high population density relative to our land mass like most countries on the continent.

All these coronavirus policies were only ever about trying to retain some capacity in the NHS. The second people were left to die in corridors following road accidents etc because there was no capacity for them, the political cost would have stepped up to a whole new level. People would have understandably been upset by such an event. Hence the panic initially to setup the nightingale hospitals. I would suggest the government and it's advisers planned for a worst-case scenario at the outset and thought the number of infections early on would have been a lot larger. They knew that the virus had been in the country for some weeks by January and it was already too late in some ways.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Probably not, but I'll be keeping to the 2M + rule for at least another 30 years. :cool:

Can't wait for lockdown to end, maybe the f**king roads will be quieter.:rolleyes:

Surprised if we do actually beat corvid, with the moronic activity in this country...." I want to go on holiday ", " I don't want to wear a mask ", " When will we be allowed to go to football matches ".

FFS.:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

oldoaktree

Member
Location
County Durham
None of this has ever been about the number of deaths. I've explained many times on this forum that the number of deaths was never the sole concern of the government. If it could be computer modelled, I bet the number of deaths each country genuinely has by the end of this was probably always going to be what it was going to be regardless of what measures were taken. We know that UK populace is pretty unhealthy- over 60% of adults are obese or overweight. We know the incidence of diabetes, respiratory and cardiovascular disease because they are extensively recorded and have been for years. We also know that at portions of our society were genuine morons who were going to disobey government/medical warnings and continue to behave in a way that spread the virus. I don't think any of us here are genuinely surprised at the scale of the infection in the UK nor in comparable European countries- we have a high population density relative to our land mass like most countries on the continent.

All these coronavirus policies were only ever about trying to retain some capacity in the NHS. The second people were left to die in corridors following road accidents etc because there was no capacity for them, the political cost would have stepped up to a whole new level. People would have understandably been upset by such an event. Hence the panic initially to setup the nightingale hospitals. I would suggest the government and it's advisers planned for a worst-case scenario at the outset and thought the number of infections early on would have been a lot larger. They knew that the virus had been in the country for some weeks by January and it was already too late in some ways.
Don’t waste your time with the obvious. Some people just aren’t able to understand it .
 

hoff135

Member
Location
scotland
None of this has ever been about the number of deaths. I've explained many times on this forum that the number of deaths was never the sole concern of the government. If it could be computer modelled, I bet the number of deaths each country genuinely has by the end of this was probably always going to be what it was going to be regardless of what measures were taken. We know that UK populace is pretty unhealthy- over 60% of adults are obese or overweight. We know the incidence of diabetes, respiratory and cardiovascular disease because they are extensively recorded and have been for years. We also know that at portions of our society were genuine morons who were going to disobey government/medical warnings and continue to behave in a way that spread the virus. I don't think any of us here are genuinely surprised at the scale of the infection in the UK nor in comparable European countries- we have a high population density relative to our land mass like most countries on the continent.

All these coronavirus policies were only ever about trying to retain some capacity in the NHS. The second people were left to die in corridors following road accidents etc because there was no capacity for them, the political cost would have stepped up to a whole new level. People would have understandably been upset by such an event. Hence the panic initially to setup the nightingale hospitals. I would suggest the government and it's advisers planned for a worst-case scenario at the outset and thought the number of infections early on would have been a lot larger. They knew that the virus had been in the country for some weeks by January and it was already too late in some ways.
If that is the case can we assume that ALL restrictions will be removed fairly soon. There will also be no need for a so called vaccine passport given only a small percentage will refuse the vaccine and wont over burden the nhs?
 

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