Bio-fungicides at T0

Bob R · Mar 16, 2021

Been recommended the use of iodus (Laminarin active) at T0 for septoria protection based in south west so high disease pressure.

Are many others planning on using these bio-fungicides at T0 to replace CTL, with folpet not looking like a cost effective choice.

Dont see these bio-fungicides appearing anywhere on the NIAB Strategies.

I am thinking the money may be better spent on a more robust T1 for septoria control and only doing a T0 with teb if rust is an issue?

Steevo · Mar 16, 2021

I think your thoughts in the last paragraph are wise.

teslacoils · Mar 16, 2021

I'm not planning on using it, but I am watching this and salicylic acid with interest as potential products. I expect the ££££ will be too high for me in the "dry" east.

robbie · Mar 16, 2021

Is the iodus being pushed by a serviced agro????

SilliamWhale · Mar 16, 2021

Bob1994 said:
Been recommended the use of iodus (Laminarin active) at T0 for septoria protection based in south west so high disease pressure.

Are many others planning on using these bio-fungicides at T0 to replace CTL, with folpet not looking like a cost effective choice.

Dont see these bio-fungicides appearing anywhere on the NIAB Strategies.

I am thinking the money may be better spent on a more robust T1 for septoria control and only doing a T0 with teb if rust is an issue?

If you read between the lines of most of the ag press T0 never really did a yield benefit anyway - only if you were off beam with your T1. It was fine when cTL was cheap but not so fine now.

My opinion is save your money for a good T1 and T2

teslacoils · Mar 16, 2021

SilliamWhale said:
My opinion is save your money for a good T1 and T2

Everyone is saying there's loads of rust about this spring.

Bob R · Mar 16, 2021

robbie said:
Is the iodus being pushed by a serviced agro????

Recommendation has come from a serviced agronomist so more than likely being pushed by them. I’m not against using the product if the benefits are there just interested to see others opinions.

SilliamWhale · Mar 16, 2021

teslacoils said:
Everyone is saying there's loads of rust about this spring.

Fair point, I'm down in septoria country more than rust country. Different up your way

robbie · Mar 16, 2021

While we do indeed need to look and think outside the box, and I for one am always keen to try different/non conventional things. The fact it's being prescribed by a serviced chap and the likes of NIAB,AHDB ect don't seem to mention it or have any trials data for it says enough for me.

Just out of curiousity what's does it cost per ha and at what rate.

teslacoils · Mar 16, 2021

Bob1994 said:
a serviced agronomist

Is it Agrii-able?

SilliamWhale · Mar 16, 2021

robbie said:
While we do indeed need to look and think outside the box, and I for one am always keen to try different/non conventional things. The fact it's being prescribed by a serviced chap and the likes of NIAB,AHDB ect don't seem to mention it or have any trials data for it says enough for me.

Just out of curiousity what's does it cost per ha and at what rate.

Very few of these many biostimulants/ inoculants/ activators are effective

robbie · Mar 16, 2021

I've just been reading about it on upl's web site and really I can't see what it would do that a good slug of minerals in the tank would do.

Bob R · Mar 16, 2021

robbie said:
While we do indeed need to look and think outside the box, and I for one am always keen to try different/non conventional things. The fact it's being prescribed by a serviced chap and the likes of NIAB,AHDB ect don't seem to mention it or have any trials data for it says enough for me.

Just out of curiousity what's does it cost per ha and at what rate.

Exactly what got me curious when I couldn’t see anything of these products in the NIAB strategies. I only got the recommendation tonight at 0.5l/ha so won’t get price until tomorrow. Can keep you updated.

Northern territory · Mar 16, 2021

Supposed to be an elicitor that triggers the plants defence mechanism against disease. I thought it sounded quite interesting as something for the future but yet to be proven.

Hobbit · Mar 16, 2021

It was recommended here by serviced agronomist. Whilst I liked the idea more information was needed so I spoke to a friend in the industry. The shortened response was that it’s a seaweed derived product and there more cost effective seaweed products out there that aren’t restricted to T0 applications like Iodus. Still interested to see how others get on with it.

teslacoils · Mar 16, 2021

Hobbit said:
It was recommended here by serviced agronomist.

Which company?

Hobbit · Mar 16, 2021

teslacoils said:
Which company?

Agrovista

snarling bee · Mar 16, 2021

I think you know the answer.

Bogweevil · Mar 17, 2021

robbie said:
While we do indeed need to look and think outside the box, and I for one am always keen to try different/non conventional things. The fact it's being prescribed by a serviced chap and the likes of NIAB,AHDB ect don't seem to mention it or have any trials data for it says enough for me.

Just out of curiousity what's does it cost per ha and at what rate.

Here you go - you will need this when multiple resistance and product withdrawal leaves no choice:

snarling bee · Mar 17, 2021

NIAB TAG have a view that I not sure I'm allowed to post to non members.

I'm sure it has an effect otherwise it would not have a proper label, but its all about cost/benefit; or your conscience that it must be more environmentally friendly than a fungicide. Why don't you try some and let us all know after harvest.

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