Beet growers have a neonic seed treatment for 2021

DrWazzock · Mar 23, 2021

Finished drilling. Exactly the same date as last year but it’s definitely colder and wetter underneath. Maybe I have forced it a bit. But it’s out of the way. Harrowed soil didn’t start drying off till after lunchtime today. Puffy seedbed but too wet to roll.

robbie · Mar 23, 2021

Still no seed but not really bothered as I only have one field that would drill, I have another which still won't carry the muck spreader without making deep wheelings and another I put the muck on yesterday and that's wet underneath still.
Terra discing the muck and cover crop in was bringing up raw soil, it needs a few days before ploughing and then another few days before drilling.

DrWazzock · Mar 23, 2021

It's certainly a lot wetter underneath than it was this time last year. A mixed blessing.

robbie · Mar 23, 2021

That's exactly what I was saying to someone earlier, we all thought last year was bad but this year is a lot worse. I just hope we don't get another drought when it does finally dry up like last year.

I had all cereals drilled by now last year and was all systems go on the beet.

DrWazzock · Mar 23, 2021

My beet, being on lighter fields is the only job that would go at all. I really should have my spring wheat in but it’s on heavier land and much too wet yet. Ideally the beet land could have done with a bit longer to dry but I thought I’d be left with too much to do late March and early April if I hadn’t made a start, especially if it turns catchy. Next will be spring barley on not too heavy land with the spring wheat and beans last. All the wrong way round timing wise but soil types dictate. I think I will need to drag up some of the overwintered ploughing. It’s down flat and solid. Wet as.

PeaBee · Mar 23, 2021

Rookie said:
I would imagine that it has been done in a lab where they actually drop the active ingredient directly onto a bee and not in real field growing situation.?
On the other side, I haven't noticed any studies showing actual evidence of the benefits to bees since banning neonicotinoids on sugar beet or OSR to back up their claims. I'd imagine the loss of thousands of ha. of WOSR being grown will of had a negative impact due to the loss of foraging areas.

Totally correct from my point of view. I am a beefarmer and have been putting bees on OSR for many years and have never lost a colony that I would attribute neonicotinoids. This year I am worried about lack of early spring forage with little OSR and I am having to move several groups 30 +miles to get them on it. I think there is no doubt neonicotinoids CAN be harmful to be. But in the real world I have not seen it happen to mine.

Sonoftheheir · Mar 24, 2021

Anyone get any hope from the Meeting?

Breckland Boy · Mar 24, 2021

None.

Sonoftheheir · Mar 24, 2021

Breckland Boy said:
None.

Same here, seriously thinking about environmental schemes for beet land in the future

Goffer · Mar 24, 2021

How many was laughing when he started commenting ‘ we giving a £ here and an extra £1.50 there . On our 1500 of beet they have just lifted my spirits that I may get £1500 . Just about buy 80 ton of stone I laid on tracks

Sonoftheheir · Mar 24, 2021

they’ll pull £5 a ton extra out of the bag surely

Goffer · Mar 24, 2021

Sonoftheheir said:
they’ll pull £5 a ton extra out of the bag surely

It realistically needs to be up there too get us to show interest beyond this next year . I wonder if they’ll both making a 1 or 3yr offer this summer

redbaron · Mar 24, 2021

The future is imported sugar guys.

teslacoils · Mar 24, 2021

Sonoftheheir said:
they’ll pull £5 a ton extra out of the bag surely

They'll backtrack on the £1! Forget £5.

Sonoftheheir · Mar 24, 2021

redbaron said:
The future is imported sugar guys.

Yep, I think you’re right.

robbie · Mar 25, 2021

Seed arrived yesterday, the gods must be smiling on me as no one else around me who opted for neonics have had there's yet.

Sonoftheheir · Mar 25, 2021

robbie said:
Seed arrived yesterday, the gods must be smiling on me as no one else around me who opted for neonics have had there's yet.

Ours were all KWS varieties

robbie · Mar 25, 2021

I've got some and some, lasewing, cantina, daphnia, bt1915

Breckland Boy · Mar 25, 2021

Sonoftheheir said:
Ours were all KWS varieties

All kws kortessa here.

Breckland Boy · Mar 25, 2021

I'm down to 20ha, all 1 field.
Don't see the point of having multiple varieties in one field. It can impact on herb and fungicide timings.

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