primmiemoo
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Thanks, that looks an excellent forum!
I'll direct an in-law's sister to it. She's almost exactly my age, and having a tough time.
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Thanks, that looks an excellent forum!
I'll direct an in-law's sister to it. She's almost exactly my age, and having a tough time.
Chopsy Varmint
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It's great, covers everything and seems to be very supportive. Just knowing you're not going totally doolally-flip is a start.
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On the subject of interacting with doctors I found this book very useful, especially the last few chapters around respectfully questioning each other:
Lies My Doctor Told Me: Medical Myths That Can Harm Your Health : Ken Berry: Amazon.co.uk: Books
Lies My Doctor Told Me: Medical Myths That Can Harm Your Health : Ken Berry: Amazon.co.uk: Books
www.amazon.co.uk
primmiemoo
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Does it deal with the UK as well, @holwellcourtfarm ? I like Dr Phil Hammond's take on the NHS, tbh.
Chopsy Varmint
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Another good link, thanks. Especially since Amazon allows you to read some of it.
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It's entirely US based but is very open and enlightened about the pressures that doctors face in their career, the very limited training they get in some particular areas and how to respectfully approach them about your concerns. I have several GP's as friends (Mel was a GP Practice Manager so we socialised with GP's extensively) and, though I haven't specifically discussed these issues with any of them since recently reading this book, I'm sure they would agree to a large degree with what He says. It's worth the read.
If you wanted I'd post this copy to you for onward sharing.
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Also, my best mate's son qualified as a pharmacist in 2019 and now works in a local hospital. He and I have discussed the limitations of pharmacological knowledge of many doctors (not generally their fault, it's just a time issue).
If you have a good pharmacist nearby then they are a great resource to talk your drug and symptom issues through with too.
If you have a good pharmacist nearby then they are a great resource to talk your drug and symptom issues through with too.
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There seems to be a right problem in the Czech Republic with ladies turning “not right” with the change. (Sadly MIL included, who seemed absolutely “normal” before
)primmiemoo
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How to ask your GP to listen might be a good book title.
Chopsy Varmint
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It's a very weird thing. Even when you're in the midst of a crying fit and feeling like you have totally got to the end of your tether because you've dropped a mug/knocked over a glass of wine/trodden in dog poop in the garden there's still the 'normal' you stuck in your head aware of the ridiculous over-reaction and wondering what on earth you're playing at.There seems to be a right problem in the Czech Republic with ladies turning “not right” with the change. (Sadly MIL included, who seemed absolutely “normal” before
Or if you're not weeping due to poop on your boot, you're raging and furious and ready to start stabbing anyone who looks at you.
Chuck in the physical symptoms and it's all very odd and alarming until you realise what's actually going on.
Chopsy Varmint
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Absolutely, the first GP I saw with the same concerns sent me off to Holland and Barrett.
GrannyAching
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Barsteward.
GP's vary... I've had f**ked up wiring for years... I seen my old GP and he fixed me. He retired and the new one when everything got too much sent me for blood tests and was more interested in what I do for a living and waffled Ford Mustangs.
Old ones back 2 days a week... He's a star. I'll admit I cried after I'd booked the phone call with him. I trust him 100% My dad thought the world of him.and the Doctor was the first to call after my dad passed of cancer. He'd been following his progress and was upset as he'd considered him not just a patient but a friend also.
If he hadn't of returned I'd have been thinking the chimp paradox would of fixed me.
Old ones back 2 days a week... He's a star. I'll admit I cried after I'd booked the phone call with him. I trust him 100% My dad thought the world of him.and the Doctor was the first to call after my dad passed of cancer. He'd been following his progress and was upset as he'd considered him not just a patient but a friend also.
If he hadn't of returned I'd have been thinking the chimp paradox would of fixed me.
Chopsy Varmint
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I wasn't impressed.
GrannyAching
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My mother got major relief from using star flower (borage) oil. It was pre HRT days so you were well on your own - people were just getting into evening primrose oil which did nothing for her. It's a great hormon leveller for girls, boys, women and men and very safe as far as I'm aware.
Has your GP checked for pernicious anemia? Again this is something that affects men and women - forty onwards - and can really mess with your health, mental and physical; and sleep but which no one seems to know about or consider until faced with the more drastic physical symptoms.
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Somewhere in the middle is good. I remember my "mate" taking my car for a joyride and rolling it, writing it off - and I felt absolutely nothing! Not even concern for my mate considering it was a big smash, just nothing.
Looking back, that was a f**king dangerous state for someone with manic depression to be in, especially considering it was the treatment for the condition causing that detachment from reality and the previous suicide attempts.... I could have just "gone and done it" while in that fog and not even really been aware
Good shout bringing this matter up @Chopsy Varmint
Christoph1945
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When you are actually aware of what is taking place with your hormonal changes and how they are affecting your mind and body your ability to stabilise your thinking is greatly enhanced. Unfortunately for me, when they pumped me full of high doses of Valium and then instantly withdrew my supply, I had no way of knowing that the turmoil and dark terrors of my mind were actually withdrawal symptoms and were not reality in any shape or form.
The above, of course, was complicated by unresolved and unhealed wounds inflicted by life. Despite knowing very little about the female changes of life that are brought on by hormonal changes induced by ageing I do sometimes wonder if some are hit worse because they carry within their memories deep psychological wounds from their pasts.
I suppose that trauma brought on by the female change of life is, in a way, withdrawal symptoms! Do some ladies pass through the change unscathed?
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As to your last question. Yes. Couple of sweaty nights and all over. Do previous baggage had little or nothing to do with the body's response one.
However, I am going to flag up that men also experience a "menopause" in their forties and fifties, which is often joked about but not well understood. Science is chipping away at it.
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But I did have it twice. The first time was no fun!