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Chae1 · Apr 13, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
3rd week august onwards

Which part of Scotland are you in?

I've tried establishing forage/rape stubble turnips after spring barley. Same harvest date and its a bit of a waste of money in my opinion.

We sow winter barley for putting in stubble turnips after. Has been a success so far.

gone up the hill · Apr 13, 2021

andybk said:
thats what i thought so an 18kg lamb is going to be 36 kg and under , ie pretty light , which would explain value

With the exception of the very top end grades they wont average anywhere near 50% on the hook.

A few more new liveweight sellers at Exeter yesterday with spring lambs that untill now have always sold deadweight!

Martyn · Apr 13, 2021

Kiss said:
Sounds like johnes

Was tested twice for that. Both Neg

Werzle · Apr 13, 2021

Martyn said:
We purchased a polled Hereford bull from a top breeder and calves have now got small horns, do you think they will grow into full adult horns, never used a poll befor but thought it would prevent dehorning. Would you take them all off now befor turn out. View attachment 953837

If he was sold as only a "polled bull" and you put him to horned cows(not polled) then a percentage of calves will have horns, only a "homozygous polled " bull throws 100% pollled calves to any dam

Werzle · Apr 13, 2021

C.J said:
Heterozygous polled so only one copy of the polling gene - should still leave 50% of calves with no horns.

If you want 100% calves without horns you need to buy a Homozygous bull.

Just scrolled back and read that you had already mentioned it.

Raider112 · Apr 13, 2021

livestock 1 said:
You can’t make anything of decent sized batches of hoggs without feeding them.
Yes decent keep or a decent dairy farm can be ok if you don’t get carried away with numbers but generally hoggs that have had little to eat through the winter end up nothing. I used to send a lot away on keep locally not the best ground and sell them April onwards. They would sell ok for the ethnic trade and were fit but never weighed as well as properly fed hoggs.The job has changed now they want properly finished sheep so no point in bothering. In a lot of ways a sheep is what it eats and eating poor grass through the winter costs a lot to put right later on.

We've had cheviots away this year £140 plus from nothing but grass so it can be done.

Martyn · Apr 13, 2021

Werzle said:
If he was sold as only a "polled bull" and you put him to horned cows(not polled) then a percentage of calves will have horns, only a "homozygous polled " bull throws 100% pollled calves to any dam

Why when we use Angus bulls we never get horns but a bull from a long established polled Hereford herd we do. Surely waste of time the Hereford society advertiseing them as polled to dairy farmers.

livestock 1 · Apr 13, 2021

Raider112 said:
We've had cheviots away this year £140 plus from nothing but grass so it can be done.

I will fetch some up

Werzle · Apr 13, 2021

Martyn said:
Why when we use Angus bulls we never get horns but a bull from a long established polled Hereford herd we do. Surely waste of time the Hereford society advertiseing them as polled to dairy farmers.

Above my pay grade that question

Raider112 · Apr 13, 2021

livestock 1 said:
I will fetch some up

Ah but the cleverest bit is there hasn't been much grass for them so unless it warms up....

Full of bull(s) · Apr 13, 2021

Northeastfarmer said:
Selling live

Kept reading reports of these out of this world trades, thought I’d try a bit of space travel

Northern territory · Apr 13, 2021

livestock 1 said:
You can’t make anything of decent sized batches of hoggs without feeding them.
Yes decent keep or a decent dairy farm can be ok if you don’t get carried away with numbers but generally hoggs that have had little to eat through the winter end up nothing. I used to send a lot away on keep locally not the best ground and sell them April onwards. They would sell ok for the ethnic trade and were fit but never weighed as well as properly fed hoggs.The job has changed now they want properly finished sheep so no point in bothering. In a lot of ways a sheep is what it eats and eating poor grass through the winter costs a lot to put right later on.

I’m with you on that, especially continental breeds, dead weight not too bad but live seems to like them very fit.

andybk · Apr 13, 2021

was reading Brecon report , and they said "cull ewes still wanted, now festival is now over " festival surely isnt untill end of ramadam which is may 12th ? eid feast day

Skintagain · Apr 13, 2021

andybk said:
was reading Brecon report , and they said "cull ewes still wanted now festival is now over " festival surely isnt untill end of ramadam which is may 12th ? eid feast day

The feast is the breaking of ramadan. Fast between dawn and dusk. Eat in darkness

cattleman123 · Apr 13, 2021

gone up the hill said:
A very sad/ difficult day at the market for both staff and farmers today due to a well known and regular market topping vendor in the sheep section sadly having a heart attack as he backed upto the loading bay's to unload his sheep.

Thoughts are very much with his family tonight at this very sad time.

Skintagain said:
The feast is the breaking of ramadan. Fast between dawn and dusk. Eat in darkness

So what will likely happen on 12th of May another feast ?

sheepwise · Apr 13, 2021

gone up the hill said:
With the exception of the very top end grades they wont average anywhere near 50% on the hook.

A few more new liveweight sellers at Exeter yesterday with spring lambs that untill now have always sold deadweight!

You obviously know very little about early creep fed lambs then. Will do 50% of market weight easily.

gone up the hill · Apr 13, 2021

sheepwise said:
You obviously no very little about early creep fed lambs then. Will do 50% of market weight easily.

Unless E or top end U grade they will not kill out anywhere near 50% on average!

andybk · Apr 13, 2021

gone up the hill said:
Unless E or top end U grade they will not kill out anywhere near 50% on average!

think i would be disappointed if the main terminal sires didnt do 50% + off the ewe @12-16 weeks with lighter bone structure etc , maybe as charollais breeders we are spoiled . lol , The op did say they were dark faced so poss uk suffolks , dont kow how well they would kill out

gone up the hill · Apr 13, 2021

andybk said:
think i would be disappointed if the main terminal sires didnt do 50% + off the ewe @12-16 weeks with lighter bone structure etc , maybe as charollais breeders we are spoiled . lol , The op did say they were dark faced so poss uk suffolks , dont kow how well they would kill out

They will not average 50% across the board it is as simple as that unless top end E/U+ lambs.

JSmith · Apr 13, 2021

When you say across the board are you saying sired by any ram unless top grade won’t do fifty percent????

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