Governments should always be called out and held to account,this is obviously not going to be done by its sycophantic supporters so it’s good that there are people like LBP and Ashtree among others out there. To paraphrase “ for cheats and liars to win honest people need to do nothing “.
Single Market / Customs Union - A Tragic Loss
- Thread starter Ashtree
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Not sure it should be seen as anyone losing more a case of resetting the scope of the EU in becoming a superstate, maybe it has taken the UK being brave enough to stand up to Brussels's idea of all EU countries becoming under their sole control to bring about a rethink.
Things were always going to be difficult for the UK for a year or two as Brussel's tries to deter others from leaving & they are somewhat paranoid that heavens forbid the UK actually prospers in the longer term but the upside is now individual EU countries are more likely to retain their individuality.
Yes, yes, yes. Keep on repeating the same old tired mantra. No different than Tump’s rantings, they eventually become an alternative truth. Like Trump though, more than enough people see through the bulls**t, and “take back control”, from the highwaymen who “seized control”, and quickly reverted to sleazy, corrupt type!
I have Dutch friends who speak up to six languages seemingly without special education. One friend was talking about his eldest son leaving school when he said now he must travel and learn his languages before entering the family business. That makes them great and confident international traders otherwise they would fail because few people speak Dutch other than the natives.
And you never repeat the old mantra?
renewablejohn
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- lancs
Daughter is on the front line of UK exports being a vet and seconded for a couple of days per week sorting out the red tape to get UK product thats been exported to EU for decades back on the EU shelves. Her conclusion so far is its purely politics by Brussels as to which loads gets rejected without any justification as the paperwork is 100% correct for each consignment.
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- Limousin, France
It was the opinion of someone who didn't have the rights.
Rubbish.
Really? Pray share some of your time and experiences in the 27 countries. Especially since your experiences of the 27 (all of them?) would seem to have been so painful
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- Limousin
Doesn't matter. The UK is now a third party country and as such has to abide by the same rules all other third party counties. Some countries like NZ do have reciprocal agreements on certain hygiene regulations and therefore have easier access to the EU. The UK chose not to go down that route presumably in the anticipation of trade deals with the US.
Maybe if the UK ever gets its border controls together and working they could pressure the EU into some compromises, but I wouldn't hold my breath with this current lot of monkeys in charge.
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- Limousin
It's very rare to find Dutch people who can't speak some English. Years ago I did some lecturing over there and everybody including the cleaning ladies and canteen staff all seemed to speak a good level of English.
Saw clip on TV last night about plight of Brit expats in Spain. One such expat, lives five months of the year in his pad in Costa del Sol, with his wife and dog. He was in Spain at the time of the election, but he flew home as many of his ilk did, just to vote leave, as he wanted to put an end to free movement, so as he put it “Britain could be for British people”!
Interviewer asks “do you see any contradiction, in your stance as you want to preserve your own free movement”?. He looked like he had been hit over the head with a sledgehammer....
Honestly ...... I do still ask myself about the IQ of more than a few, who went into the polling station, and stabbed themselves in both eyes, with the pen supplied by the election commission ..... bless their little heads....
Interviewer asks “do you see any contradiction, in your stance as you want to preserve your own free movement”?. He looked like he had been hit over the head with a sledgehammer....
Honestly ...... I do still ask myself about the IQ of more than a few, who went into the polling station, and stabbed themselves in both eyes, with the pen supplied by the election commission ..... bless their little heads....
wanton dwarf
Member
If you don't have the experience to know any different then there is only one way to find out. Over to you, @capfits and @le bon paysan .
Perhaps you could all go together and keep each other in good company ..
He can still stay 5 months in spain , so what's the problem ?
Courier
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- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
And we (The UK) gave Brussels these powers to inspect their imports on a plate by leaving - As your daughter says "Pure Politics", but surely not unexpected.
The EU is there to protect it's own and we used to have those benefits but didn't value them sufficiently.
That doesn't answer any of the question. I was interested to know details of your extensive experience of 27 EU countries. You didn't answer. Smells a bit fishy to me.
I do have (in my view) pretty extensive experience and have even worked for the European Parliament. And I speak eight European languages (only six of which, formerly seven) are EU languages. And I have spent a very large portion of my life working, living and visiting many of the EU countries - nowhere near as many or as extensive as I would like.
Back to you then...
wanton dwarf
Member
The point is YOU SAY that living in 27 countries is of great benefit.
I know the opposite to be true and I can give some very good reasons why .. but I never stated that living in 27 countries is of great benefit. You lot did.
So explain how this opportunity is so great and give practical & financial examples of how free you are to do so. For example: Can I buy a property without detriment hopping from country to country ? What about friends & relations how am I to cope with them being in different countries ? What about children and their schooling ? What about finding a stable well balanced partner in a foreign culture ? What about health ? What about tax ?
Over to you.
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- Limousin, France
Not in 1 block through all the UK winter he can't.
- Location
- Cheltenham
The monkeys in Brussels I presume you mean? When all is said and done all the comments in this section going back a long time are irrelevant to the extent that the EU were horrified that the UK given a vote, voted out. From that day the future landscape was drawn, in so far as our relationship with the EU. Mays deal was a remain all bar the shouting and while I personally voted remain for lots of reasons the one thing that would change my mind is being ever increasing rule from Brussels - no thanks! Why not go back to a common market and each and every country able to decide its own politics and so on? It worked before and those that say the EU stops any chance af another war is frankly nonsense. Any major war now is off the chart as it would result in annihilation of the world anyway.
That wasn't the question