No more new cars or vans in 9 years

oil barron · May 3, 2021

Highland Mule said:
They certainly buy market share through manipulating prices, but the ultimate demand and blame has to lie with the consumer, IMO.

In a theoretical world you can blame them all day long. In the real world, if global warming is a real thing, and world leaders agree it is a bad thing, and caused by CO2 concentration in the atmosphere then global leaders need to be putting pressure on the CCP to shut down coal fired power stations. That’s the long and short of it.

oil barron · May 3, 2021

Unfortunately there were only three realist world leaders with any sway and backbone. One of them is China, one of them will benefit massively from global warming so is encouraging it and one of them was thrown out by a Champaign socialist alliance.
So we are stuck with at least 5 years of pretending to work on the problem

Highland Mule · May 3, 2021

oil barron said:
In a theoretical world you can blame them all day long. In the real world, if global warming is a real thing, and world leaders agree it is a bad thing, and caused by CO2 concentration in the atmosphere then global leaders need to be putting pressure on the CCP to shut down coal fired power stations. That’s the long and short of it.

And the best pressure we can put is to stop consuming stuff. It’s doesn’t matter of the CO2 comes from a CCP coal station or a U.K. gas one, it’s still the same when it hits the atmosphere. Save the planet by stopping buying sh1t. Each of us can do the same as every other - just cut out excessive consumerism. Don’t blame others, but do your own part.

oil barron · May 3, 2021

Highland Mule said:
And the best pressure we can put is to stop consuming stuff. It’s doesn’t matter of the CO2 comes from a CCP coal station or a U.K. gas one, it’s still the same when it hits the atmosphere. Save the planet by stopping buying sh1t. Each of us can do the same as every other - just cut out excessive consumerism. Don’t blame others, but do your own part.

Your right, BOJO just needs to hold a press conference and tell people to stop buying so much sh1t. Should have global warming licked by the end of the year.

Breakthru · May 4, 2021

oil barron said:
Your right, BOJO just needs to hold a press conference and tell people to stop buying so much sh1t. Should have global warming licked by the end of the year.

Its amazing how many pound torches and reading glasses you own.

roscoe erf · May 14, 2021

Hundreds of electric cars in the municipality of Paris rot and leak their toxic products into the ground.
Recycling businesses won't accept them until batteries come out first. India, who tried to get rid of them, refuses to import them.
No business until now wants to deal with the ' ' battery s' issue
To slowly get out of our green fairy tale.

Dave645 · May 14, 2021

roscoe erf said:
Hundreds of electric cars in the municipality of Paris rot and leak their toxic products into the ground.
Recycling businesses won't accept them until batteries come out first. India, who tried to get rid of them, refuses to import them.
No business until now wants to deal with the ' ' battery s' issue
To slowly get out of our green fairy tale.

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28kwh battery in each one each 300kg of battery pack in each car, each worth about £2k I doubt they will throw them away when they are worth at least half that second hand.
Never mind the growing conversion market wanting all those systems and motors even if the cars are junk.

I will be interesting to see what happens with them in the end.

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