2 ears 1 mouth - never wax this more relevant than on social media !
Selling carbon credits
- Thread starter Phil P
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2 ears 1 mouth - never wax this more relevant than on social media !
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Again, no bitterness beyond a dislike of green washing - which I see your “I don’t need to do anything and big companies will pay me to help them salve their corporate guilt” scheme to be. If it’s done properly, I’d encourage anyone to change what they are doing and in the process help make the world a better place.
I’m also a fan of facts though, and didn’t feel that these coming out (after 400 posts)
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perhaps gave the full picture. The reality is you have twice as big a stake in this as Jeff Bezos does in Amazon; twenty times as much as Bill Gates has in Microsoft.
At least have the decency to admit you’re a commercial member and stick a blue tick next to your name !
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
Here’s an idea…….
I dare say my business creates a bit of fuss, roaring about in powerful, diesel powered kit spreading all manner of Mother Nature’s goodness around the county and beyond. It’s a ltd company.
Could I offset my carbon footprint by paying myself ( my tiny patch of land is privately owned) a fee?
I dare say my business creates a bit of fuss, roaring about in powerful, diesel powered kit spreading all manner of Mother Nature’s goodness around the county and beyond. It’s a ltd company.
Could I offset my carbon footprint by paying myself ( my tiny patch of land is privately owned) a fee?
- Location
- Yorks
Thanks, got it.
Still like to know which actions provide what theoretical carbon sequestration. Which gives me most income, growing cover crop, chopping straw etc.
Need to know that, otherwise going into it blind. What service does Gentle Farming do that commadicarbon doesn't? Genuine qestions.
Courier
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- Location
- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
Miscanthus carbon storage (CO2) - terravesta.com
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I think commodicarbon is the system used by Gentle Farming ? So one and the same ?
I think you are being paid for sequestration (ie increasing som) rather than storage (ie maintaining som) ?
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Which ISO standard are you referring to here @Clive? I've had a scan through 14064 part 2 and that doesn't align with my interpretation of it.
Great but it feeds no- one. We can lower carbon emissions and starve? Its like the man looking for a batwing topper for 300 acres and another fella says his one is great for his 1000 acres. WTF!Miscanthus carbon storage (CO2) - terravesta.com
- Location
- Shropshire
I think I am the man for that, I used to be a serviced Agronomist!
I know a lot of limited companies dont own the land anyway, the directors will. But there is surley scope to look into transfering the land out of the business in the future for some and then renting it back. Maybe part of the land is rented for arable and then in a few years its swapped and the other "carbon" business takes it on as a net zero sideline business. (Maybe im way off and over thinking) but whenever theres a scheme there will be a schemer
Sounds impressive and of course increasing som is good for other reasons like moisture retention, holding on nutrients etc..
Would be great if it ,could actually happen not just theory, along with stopping recreational fossil fuel use forthwith but the danger is that its taken as an answer in itself by the uncaring.
pretty much yes
to get customers you will need sone sort of credible certification however, we have that with ISO for arable crops now, it needs to be developed for grassland
it has to start somewhere as said , i suspect grassland ISO is coming
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So, with regards the questions that matter not to a farmer but to a food shopper wandering the aisles and studying the labels, we can't answer the below questions, because there are no numbers to attach to any of this.
Is that correct ? Firms are buying these carbon credits with no empirical evidence ?
Is that correct ? Firms are buying these carbon credits with no empirical evidence ?
Courier
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- Location
- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
It is only during the last 80 or 90 years that a significant area of farmland has been freed up for human food production by the replacement of oats with diesel for tractive effort - Growing an energy crop on low grade none ploughable land makes more sense than using grade 1 land to supply AD plants....which were originally intended to use waste.
- Location
- Shropshire
Well from a commercial point of view, I think it’s great.
It ticks the boxes and provides an income.
I can understand peoples reservations that you don’t need to calculate whole farm carbon though.
I get your point that it’s voluntary, so you don’t need to be carbon negative to sell your carbon, but it is ethically tricky.
But then I suppose how many businesses are ethical? Im taking a trailer full of tat to the scrap yard today, will I be dealing with ethical people?
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
I assumed the whole charade is to provide a replacement for BPS and to ensure the Tory landed gentry contniue with an income stream to pay the school fees and lifestyle they are accustomed too. In meantime drop £20 week off benefits now pandemic is over.
in an ideal world fosil fuel burning would end tomorrow yes but being realistic it can’t
things are changing though but just read the EV car threads on here to grasp the levels of resistance we have to get past !
society never wants to step backwards - we ALL fly, drive, eat food from around the world all year round, use electronics, heating, modern building materials, medicine etc - we are living longer than ever, there is less global poverty than ever and quality of life is higher than ever … we have NEVER had it so good
what we need to do is change so we don’t loose the above but find ways to do it all with much lower impact on the planet
im sure its possible but it will take time, lifetimes probably …… it has to start somewhere
As always,follow the money.