Are you all depressed ?

DrWazzock · Jul 22, 2021

If you want to know real grumpiness get in the queue at the parts counter on the hottest day of the year. Bloke at the front was complaining because the storeman was calling him Barry, not Bazza. He didn't like being called Barry apparently. FFS just get the parts and move on. The customer then commented that where he was from he was actually known by a different name that we wouldn't be able to understand round here. Somebody behind me commented that he thought the name "feckin cant" was understood throughout most of the UK.

Renaultman · Jul 22, 2021

DrWazzock said:
Go to any farm round here just before harvest and you will find grumpy people. Its just how it is. A years work ready to be bashed flat by a thunderstorm. Always has been like that and always will be. It's not a fun park, its a serious industry where time and money matters. If you don't like it then get a job in a call centre or some place you sit and chat about your holidays or something. There isn't time for frivolity. Take your eye off the ball, don't pay attention and goes it wrong big style. It is a serious business, that's requires a serious approach, not jolly japes, well at this level anyway.

Pre harvest stress, no matter how hard you try to avoid it. It's always there at some level or other. I am currently stressing because everyone around me is combining and I have nothing ready.

Derrick Hughes · Jul 22, 2021

Friesianfan said:
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Do you know Richard

Derrick Hughes · Jul 22, 2021

GeorgeK said:
I think the increasing levels of intolerance on here in general indicate all is not well in our industry. If someone's happy there shouldn't be a need to put other people down?

Un Moderated , so members can say what they like almost and no one pulls them aside and says that's out of order , if I saw a bully at School on someone I would walk over and stop him , seems adult bullies get away with it

Lowland1 · Jul 22, 2021

Renaultman said:
Got to agree, as Clive says you need a good proportion of non farming mates, a bit of empathy for those in high rise flats etc (Now that would depress me) but getting out on the bike is the best therapy for me.

That’s even worse. When my kids were at school and we went to sports matches you would meet people who seemed not to have a care in the world who just waited for their wages to hit the bank every week or every month. No you need to have farming friends with whom you can compete on the misery front of how bad the weather, crops, livestock, government, non farming population ( delete as neccesary) are. Obviously the majority of the population are wage slaves just living for the weekend which why furlough has been such a hit. The problem with farming it’s very hard not to take it home.
i apparently have a daughter but until we can have a proper discussion on important matters such as Claas v New Holland she’s dead to me. ( and i don’t just mean which colour is prettier )

DrWazzock · Jul 22, 2021

Renaultman said:
Pre harvest stress, no matter how hard you try to avoid it. It's always there at some level or other. I am currently stressing because everyone around me is combining and I have nothing ready.

Yes, once you get going the stress seems to melt away a fair bit. It’s anticipation that gets to me. I’ll keep quiet and get on now.

puppet · Jul 22, 2021

Friesianfan said:
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Hooby Farmer · Jul 22, 2021

It's 100% mindset nothing else. Re train your brain. Healthy eating, exercise, change of environment whether it be an hour a week for a hobby a chat with friends etc. Turning negatives into positives eg tractor breaks down. Of course you can get cross but change your mind straight away and say I'm very lucky to have a farm to use this machine on, or guys in India would love what I have. Sounds like hippy bulls**t but it works.

Clive · Jul 22, 2021

marco said:
I'm not proving any such thing. Your reply probably makes you think your very clever but it's not.
You state that everyone is depressed and when they say their not you go on the offensive asking they why they are so defensive. It's what people who think they are cleverer than they are say to make the responder look stupid or belittle their opinion.

For someone who probably considers themselves to be liberal you don't like when people have a different opinion or point of view to you.

again, I don't understand why you even needed to reply, I'm not trying to be "clever" I'm simply expressing an opinion,

if you don't like it then ignore it, why are we so confrontational/defensive as farmers? ........... this IS my point and social media (Twitter and TFF is full of such anger it seems )

teslacoils · Jul 22, 2021

Farming in my own right didn't make me depressed. I was we down the road by aged 14. Farming makes me anxious, especially around harvest time. Buts that's different. The depression is like a feeling of being crushed. It really crushes the energy, the fight, the drive out of you. This is compounded by the isolation, especially in the dark winter months. At the moment I'm pretty pleased with farming; my youngest has just had his last day at primary school etc. I've done a decent job at farming, and daddying. But there will always be that cyclical, crushing feeling that can appear with very little warning.

Kevtherev · Jul 22, 2021

There’s highs and lows in any job not just farming.
Imagine those folks in Germany Belgium and Holland with their homes and businesses washed away overnight.

Hampton · Jul 22, 2021

I’ve taken on an apprentice last week. I can’t tell you how much he has lifted the place. Myself and my workman enjoy coming to work and working together but their is too much for the two of us. Tom has been a breath of fresh air, nice lad, keen to learn and helped take the pressure off.
I’ve probably got too much on my plate at the moment with farm, farmhouse renovation, building work and other things, but hopefully things will settle over the next few months.
With regards to your post @Clive
Things might have stayed similar for you, but they have greatly changed for many of us and harvest last year and the hangover from it has made 2020/21 tough. However, it’s now summer and a new harvest year is on the way, so hopefully we all get our autumn crops in and have a good year 21/22.
Are you sure it’s the break or the fact you are about to harvest a good crop that has led to your optimism? Let’s face it, I’m not sure how many of us could have coped with having another 2020 harvest again this year!

Clive · Jul 22, 2021

GeorgeK said:
I think the increasing levels of intolerance on here in general indicate all is not well in our industry. If someone's happy there shouldn't be a need to put other people down?

This is pretty much what I was trying to say but put better than I did ................. is the reason an industry-wide depression ? and if so how do we snap an entire industry out of the spiral?

Hampton · Jul 22, 2021

Clive said:
a depressed multimillionaire ................. the worst type of depression !

Oh FFS!
What’s the suicide rate amongst high achieving people? Everyone has problems, don’t trivialise things

Clive · Jul 22, 2021

Hampton said:
I’ve taken on an apprentice last week. I can’t tell you how much he has lifted the place. Myself and my workman enjoy coming to work and working together but their is too much for the two of us. Tom has been a breath of fresh air, nice lad, keen to learn and helped take the pressure off.
I’ve probably got too much on my plate at the moment with farm, farmhouse renovation, building work and other things, but hopefully things will settle over the next few months.
With regards to your post @Clive
Things might have stayed similar for you, but they have greatly changed for many of us and harvest last year and the hangover from it has made 2020/21 tough. However, it’s now summer and a new harvest year is on the way, so hopefully we all get our autumn crops in and have a good year 21/22.
Are you sure it’s the break or the fact you are about to harvest a good crop that has led to your optimism? Let’s face it, I’m not sure how many of us could have coped with having another 2020 harvest again this year!

It;s, without doubt, the break and time with a load of none farming people and friends that have made me realize what a state most farmers are in and how negative their attitude has become

I'm rarely pessimistic, (even when sometimes I probably should be !) the last harvest was a bit of a disaster but I was still positive and managed to salvage the best from it and good prices

Clive · Jul 22, 2021

Hampton said:
Oh FFS!
What’s the suicide rate amongst high achieving people? Everyone has problems, don’t trivialise things

not trivializing anything - my reply was to a post that suggested the owner of a 200ac farm was poor ....................... sat on a 2mil plus asset in many areas that's frankly just a ridiculous thing to suggest

Hampton · Jul 22, 2021

Clive said:
It;s, without doubt, the break and time with a load of none farming people and friends that have made me realize what a state most farmers are in and how negative their attitude has become

I'm rarely pessimistic, (even when sometimes I probably should be !) the last harvest was a bit of a disaster but I was still positive and managed to salvage the best from it and good prices

I’m sure, but you’ve returned to the farm at one of the most exciting times of the year. You haven’t returned to see all your rape eaten by flea beetle and your wheat flooded.
How optimistic do you think they are in northern German Rhineland at the moment?

teslacoils · Jul 22, 2021

Clive said:
not trivializing anything - my reply was to a post that suggested the owner of a 200ac farm was poor ....................... sat on a 2mil plus asset in many areas that's frankly just a ridiculous thing to suggest

It's entirely possible to be the owner of 200ac but in reality the bank own most of that asset, and the rest securing the overdraft on the growing crops.

Hampton · Jul 22, 2021

Clive said:
not trivializing anything - my reply was to a post that suggested the owner of a 200ac farm was poor ....................... sat on a 2mil plus asset in many areas that's frankly just a ridiculous thing to suggest

He didn’t say he was poor, just that making a living was tough with the massive fluctuations in price.
You are trivialising as your solution is sell up and leave. If you weren’t trivialising you may have sympathised or offered sensible solutions

Clive · Jul 22, 2021

ajd132 said:
You only have to read the threads about co op grain stores on here and you will realise that U.K. farmers generally don’t like working together. Which I think is such a massive shame.

frustrating isn't it - the way most farmers buy inputs in the UK is prehistoric and extremely inefficient

there is LOADS of money in farming but most give it all away to suppliers and buyers who are doing VERY well thank-you

offer alternatives and there is little interest however, you can lead a horse to water ...................................

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