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- Cumbria
I was wondering if the fertiliser plant situation is a sub diffuse from government to take attention away from the control the Russians have on our gas supply
CF Fertilisers
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- East Sussex
But it's 'green' innit?
Mixedupfarmer
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- Location
- Norfolk
Just like the governments agricultural policy....
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yup.
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Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Think I heard earlier on the radio Billy Bunter (our beloved leader) say ' a bit of rough and tumble until the markets sort it out'. Oh dear Billy your riding your luck again. A lack of PPE for covid - OK electorate forgive you. Gas rationing this winter so cannot heat house and no electric - trouble. And just when the smooth chancellor Rishi is taking away the £20 UC covid uplift.
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- Essex
Anyone like to put a value on wheat next autumn if farmers don't get the required fertiliser inputs?
Or put another way, if they get the fert but at double the price?
Or put another way, if they get the fert but at double the price?
capfits
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Was reading that a number of the bigger players in the energy supply business naturally hold options over gas for smoothing purposes.
It transpires at this time the value of these options are currently higher than the value of the said energy companies.
As a beleagured holder of Centrica may I suggest we sell these options and fold the company and return capital to investors?
- Location
- Northumberland
Usually the day after "spook night" / Halloween.
2wheels
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- Location
- aberdeenshire
that will very much depend on the rest of the world. don't be surprised to find a small uk crop and plenty in the rest of the world. a double whammy for uk producers. could easily be the other way of course.
Donkey Oaty
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I'd say in the range of £100 to £400/tonne.
serf
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- Location
- warwickshire
Best go and get the pile of fire wood in doors quick under lock and key before it's pillaged ....
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
Just bought some urea for next spring. It’s there if you care to look.
- Location
- Durham, UK
To be honest im more bothered about beer than chicken
- Location
- Boroughbridge, york
Drink the beer I guarantee it will only make you hungrier.
A question for the collective - unless you think it needs to go elsewhere....
In the interests of what we'll laughingly called 'journalistic research'....
What will be the effects of a large gap in N supply now for a few weeks?
Or a massive price hike?
Are there winter corn crops that are deffo going to suffer for the want?
(I see @Clive is talking about fallowing ground)
In the interests of what we'll laughingly called 'journalistic research'....
What will be the effects of a large gap in N supply now for a few weeks?
Or a massive price hike?
Are there winter corn crops that are deffo going to suffer for the want?
(I see @Clive is talking about fallowing ground)
There is a small amount used in the autumn to help establish OSR, but anything ordered September onwards is for spring fertilising, which starts in most areas on February the 15th (NVZ).
thanks @PSQ ...pardon my ignorance, I know pretty much nought about such things, and am not the kind of customer CF would be worrying about (annual consumption circa 15-20 tonnes )
I'm guessing there's a price benefit to buying now for spring use, which in turn is about evening out annual supply/demand?
And plenty are doing this to ensure smooth flow of operations when the need occurs.
Jeepers, farmers assisting the market to balance everyone's needs? That doesn't sound like the wicked farmers i keep hearing about!
Pity the rest of the fudging world doesn't work like that.
Breakthru
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
If as a pig farmer you had the opportunity to switch off production now and sell your feed wheat back into the market at a profit rather than chase a loss you would do it in a heartbeat. CF no different. They would be lumbered with expensively made fertiliser with no one willing to pay the price to buy it. Putin has put the squeeze on gas through Ukraine to force Europe and US to give approval to Nordstream 2 line through the Baltic.
What is worse is that wee Burnie in Holyrood numptyville and her green #ssed pals intend to leave gas we could exploit in the North Sea and West of Shetland in the ground. Deficit of 13 billion and last year 27 billion so we definitely don't need the income. I am preparing my campervan for Portuguese and Canaries winters. In the meantime my 4 generators will be worth at least double what I paid for them. Stock up on petrol for the winter boys and gals as no power no pumps at fuel stations.
What is worse is that wee Burnie in Holyrood numptyville and her green #ssed pals intend to leave gas we could exploit in the North Sea and West of Shetland in the ground. Deficit of 13 billion and last year 27 billion so we definitely don't need the income. I am preparing my campervan for Portuguese and Canaries winters. In the meantime my 4 generators will be worth at least double what I paid for them. Stock up on petrol for the winter boys and gals as no power no pumps at fuel stations.
- Location
- West Suffolk
I thought most of our gas comes from Norway?
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- South Wales UK
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