“The animal agriculture industry is not long for this world”

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Why is it that every possible looming disaster to farming gets posted on a farming forum just to cause more gloom , more negative farming news gets posted by farmers than the people who actually want farming to end! Most possible problems never come true , farmers seem to love to worry and even more so to worry others.

Possibly because farming is isolationist - even with the bigger farms, the burden is carried by the boss.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
How long is not long ?
don't think its stopping any time soon

Brown said … 15 years. That’s his belief

Smug looking sod

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Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
That is the stated aim of Patrick Brown, CEO of Impossible Foods which creates meat substitutes using genetically engineered yeasts.
He is quoted in today’s Times as

”If we eliminated animal agriculture in the next 15 years it causes a pause in emissions that lasts 30 year. Biomass recovery alone will remove from the atmosphere the equivalent of 22 years of fossil fuel emissions at the current rate.”

‘Why is this important? Because cows and sheep produce huge volumes of methane - a powerful greenhouse gas. And if grazing land was used to grow trees it would create a huge carbon sink.’

Impossible Foods has raised its money from a variety of venture capitalist funders including Bill Gates.

it seems to me that every opportunity is being taken to demonise meat and dairy.
There was no counter argument to the fact that this is highly processed gloop and that VCs don’t invest out of the goodness of their hearts.

The principal driver of climate change is consumerism.
Consumerism is what made Bill Gates one of the richest men in the world.
It should be no surprise to anyone that he intends to sell us all 'the answer'.

Sustainability is the opposite to consumerism.
It is all about the common man retaining and sharing resources and not giving the upper echelons a cut for processing, branding and moving.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
You couldn’t get a much more efficient and environmentally benign source of energy than the giant solar power station that is grass fed livestock especially where you have clover leys Feedstock is carbon dioxide and sunlight. Win win, all recycled including incidental methane.
But instead of that the powers that be envisage what? Biochemical rector vessels powered by …..? Feedstock is ,,,,,,,,? All of this nonsense will consume yet more resources, generate yet more waste all to provide a very poor imitation of a natural product that is shrewdly here. tried and tested. It’s called meat. Nothing wrong with it. Carry on.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Of course it is Roger. I’m not sure whether you are aware or not, but a significant percentage of the U.K. population is absolutely f**king stupid. And as if we didn’t have enough, we welcome the terminally stupid to our shores as well.

Then they breed so we can have native stupid mixed with foreign stupid creating fantastic hybrid vigour and new super strains of spectacular batshit mental stupidity, many of whom get themselves into positions of authority and even government.

I’m starting to think I’m way too sensible to live here. And if you knew me then you would know that things must be bad.

I always thought I was normal like the majority of the population, but as I gain in years I am sure I am no longer normal and bloody grateful I am not!
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Bet you 10 quid that people are still eating meat in 15 years

Ain‘t taking that bet …. There is an interesting piece in the business section of the same paper suggesting that this sort of “meat” will struggle to get below $50 per pound (as opposed to around $6 per pound from an animal) due to costs of scale and the acute problems of stopping contamination in the bio-reactors
 
The principal driver of climate change is consumerism.
Consumerism is what made Bill Gates one of the richest men in the world.
It should be no surprise to anyone that he intends to sell us all 'the answer'.

Sustainability is the opposite to consumerism.
It is all about the common man retaining and sharing resources and not giving the upper echelons a cut for processing, branding and moving.

Yep.

Perhaps small AD is an answer for on farm fertiliser - but probably far too many balls to be kept in the air at once unless it's built to cater for multiple farms.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
What do all these fake meats use as their feedstock? You can't get something for nothing no matter how much you try.
A Thousand times this^

Animal agriculture uses natural and renewable resources.

All those claiming their products are 'better' than meat should have to give some precise figures of the water, energy, ingredients etc that they use so they can be scrutinised and properly compared.
I'm very confident that most don't know and don't want to know, they just argue that it is better because it reduces the use of meat and that's what the 'experts' advise.
 

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