it's a different thread....but that's going to be a problem for manySome think grass won't grow without it
it's a different thread....but that's going to be a problem for manySome think grass won't grow without it
I have organic, low input (50kg max allowed) and conventional grass.it's a different thread....but that's going to be a problem for many
25 acres can be mowed
No fertilisers
Sheep or cattle
No building or handling pen
4 miles from existing land
Just keep in good order
Same, got organic registered, non registered organic as headache rate. And conventional grass on both high input and low input systems. Can’t beat a nice dose of sugar in February to boost the leys, thankfully predominantly clover in the leys to suit the low input system…I have organic, low input (50kg max allowed) and conventional grass.
Fertilizer works
Sugar in February can tell you are a Pembrokeshire farmerSame, got organic registered, non registered organic as headache rate. And conventional grass on both high input and low input systems. Can’t beat a nice dose of sugar in February to boost the leys, thankfully predominantly clover in the leys to suit the low input system…
Tell them keep the bps for themselves no point you having it it’s going in a couple years… then if it’s good grass fenced and water £120 acre ? … if it’s good grass and no fencing but water £80 acre… if it’s crap grass no water no fencing £30-40acre
There’s plenty and I mean more that will than what won’t… that will pay that for good young grass with fences and water and not allowed fert … seen stuff going over £200 an acre last year at grass keep auction near here that wasn’t allowed fert just muck, fenced and water no bps and only allowed on for 8 months£120 acre with no fert and no bps. Are you mental?
That seems about where its atTell them keep the bps for themselves no point you having it it’s going in a couple years… then if it’s good grass fenced and water £120 acre ? … if it’s good grass and no fencing but water £80 acre… if it’s crap grass no water no fencing £30-40acre
There’s plenty and I mean more that will than what won’t… that will pay that for good young grass with fences and water and not allowed fert … seen stuff going over £200 an acre last year at grass keep auction near here that wasn’t allowed fert just muck, fenced and water no bps and only allowed on for 8 months
60 is my limit too but there’s plenty will be work for nothingNeed their heads testing. Wouldn't touch anything over 80 here and 55 to 60 is really my limit.
But it does - or there would be no need for roadside trimming 2 or 3 times in a season.Some think grass won't grow without it
60 is my limit too but there’s plenty will be work for nothing
I pay headache rate on some land I rent 364 days on and it ends up around £115/acre yet not very productive old leys and I don’t put fert on itNo wonder people moan about no money when there businesses are based on such high overheads.
I expect that this is by choice.I pay headache rate on some land I rent 364 days on and it ends up around £115/acre yet not very productive old leys and I don’t put fert on it
In the south east of England you might get it for the value of the sfp( depends on fencing) just to keep it tidy ..theres acres of old grassland and very little stock or anyone who wants to look after them more importantly .25 acres can be mowed
No fertilisers
Sheep or cattle
No building or handling pen
4 miles from existing land
Just keep in good order
With verge mowing nothing is removedBut it does - or there would be no need for roadside trimming 2 or 3 times in a season.
Yes, some bagged fert will alter the colour and produce a small amount extra crop - but not likely to cover the cost of £600 per tonne
What fert WILL do is extend the grazing season by a week or two which may well have covered it's cost in the past.
Can you tell my lawn it's not supposed to grow without firtWith verge mowing nothing is removed
I've got similar- on the mowing- no grazing ground is fed, and nothing is pushed much.I have organic, low input (50kg max allowed) and conventional grass.
Fertilizer works
But did it have any feed value? 30 years of take with no give back?I've got similar- on the mowing- no grazing ground is fed, and nothing is pushed much.
Fert works -if ph is right- for sure...but it also costs, and brings other unseen problems too.
For 30 years, I mowed unfertilised grass on a let.
With no inputs at all, it settled about 6 round bales to the acre.
Had almost no sheep -or fences- and sward was lovely. Hay was always nice unless i cocked it up.