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- South wales
Alternate approach stop reading, watching all the doom and gloom humanity is evil bull shite plastered all over the place,
Teacher sacked for kicking a horse
- Thread starter Ffermer Bach
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
People still eat, I can't see people boycotting food!
We know the Chinese do terrible things to the Muslim minority, yet how many people boycott Chinese goods?
But that's not what I said? I put my second group as not feeling comfortable with what goes on but accepting it. In my third group I said things that they don't like and country sports was the 4th thing I mentioned and hunting alone was never even mentioned. The point was that they move here and try to change everything while making no attempt at all to integrate with the community as they think they know better. An intolerant bigot in my eyes but that is through their attitude not mine. I have no problem with that 2nd group and for that matter i have no interest in hunting either.
The whole townie/country thing is so stupid and it’s mostly intolerant so called country people who seem to be by far the worst perpetrators and drivers for much of the animosity.
I never said they will boycott food, the point is when she saw the cameras she should have shown restraint, for example like we all do when we drive past speed cameras.
The point I was making was British farmers have spent decades telling the public, please pay extra for our produce because we treat our animals with respect, so the same farmers can't support horsey women battering horses.
- Location
- DD9.
Ever ask yourself why “disaster is rammed down our throats every day”?
When I look around my local area and beyond, I don’t see vast swathes of desolate abandoned land, wildfires, droughts, poisoned streams. Yet some sections of media have a vested interested in selling the narrative that that is the reality. The Guardian had a big donation a few years ago to “investigate” agricultural industries, I can’t remember who paid them, but it was a substantial sum, and some of the stories were utter nonsense, but they’re out there, damage done, people influenced.
Given up on the BBC, the “we all know we need to eat less meat” statement thrown into any discussion is tiresome and bears no scrutiny. Based on the Nemecek and Poore paper comparing total meat production emissions from birth to plate with transport emissions, but only what came out the exhaust, no allowance for manufacturing or infrastructure or that of the oil industry infrastructure.
Ever notice how the item preceding or following a climate emergency report is often some sort of rejoicing around easing foreign travel restrictions? Or the celeb campaigners who on the one hand campaign loudly on one form of environmental activism, yet in the next breath are crisscrossing the Atlantic in a plane -Emma Thompson and her extinction rebellion for example. Or Mr Packham, on one hand preaching on how we should live our lives, on the other cashing in with his sightseeing tours via a couple of flights and a cruise ship. Or Sir Lewis, Black Lives Matter, but not the modern day slavery in the UAE, that doesn’t make him uncomfortable enough not to race there, or posting patronising tweets about pollution in our oceans from his speedboat. Or the beloved Joanna Lumley campaigning against detonating of undetonated explosives at sea, gonna burn them instead, she’s on classic fm adverting cruises to the artic.
I think the majority of what is printed, written, broadcast now is at best badly/lazily investigated and at worst, downright untrue interested only in serving a vested interest.
- Location
- Scottish Borders
No it's not country people who are the worst perpetrators. I have lived on my farm for 54 years. I cleared an area for a permanent muck midden site and took it out my field map. 2 new houses were built 50 metres away and the first and only thing the house builder said to me was You will not be putting your muck there again will you in a threatening tone. Needless to say after discussion with department of ag and local planner their was f**k all they could do as I had gained permitted development rights and informed all authority's.
I need to live near 2 incomers from Surrey who have complained about me to all and sundry while I am going out my business. The thing that irks me is they are so ignorant that they move to a new area and start telling the locals what they can and can't do.
I need to live near 2 incomers from Surrey who have complained about me to all and sundry while I am going out my business. The thing that irks me is they are so ignorant that they move to a new area and start telling the locals what they can and can't do.
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
Not sure about all this battering of defenceless animals, we often recieved the same at school. ( We were the defencelaess animals 
) I've seen far worse at shows when a horse refused to load.
) I've seen far worse at shows when a horse refused to load.
- Location
- South Molton
Or use of whip whilst racingNot sure about all this battering of defenceless animals, we often recieved the same at school. ( We were the defencelaess animals
Again, completely agree with most of this. The Guardian is really awful at times and feeds into the anti "left" propaganda machine - definitely as much click bait as the daily mail. George Monbiot has a way of approaching these things which I can see would wind most of you up but I do believe it comes from a good place - he does mean well even if he goes about it the wrong way.
I can't speak for celebrities, and I guess we're all hypocrites to a degree, but I do practice what i preach. The thing is, what I am interested in is moving on from the tired old arguments - I happen to believe for instance that sooner or later we'll all be going back to the type of mixed farming systems that used to be the norm - regenerative systems just make sense when you look at how all the imports are going up in price - yes i know this means more expensive food, but this should be subsidised properly so its available to all.
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- DD9.
Yet the media machine pushes consumers the opposite direction, away from traditional fare towards fake meats, high carb diets, exotic ingredients and they don’t like livestock farming. Unless it’s for cuddles in the lambing shed on country file.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
The media machine follows the money and the big money is churning cheap product into fake high grade product.
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- DD9.
Exactly
Yep. The whole covid thing has been terrible but I thought last year that there was a silver lining in that people started to look at what they were eating and where it was coming from. I had real hopes of change for the better but it seems things just go back to the status quo by default.
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- Aberdeenshire
To get back horses and women being illegally sacked....horses are like 5 year old kids, they have brains but not sense. Horses can be delightful and they can be willful, obstinate and throw their weight around testing the hierarchy of dominance. An owner, just like a parent will know when their screaming child is hurt and when it just wants the shiny twinkly thing beyond reach. Horses will refuse to box through fear and they will refuse through sheer downright cussedness. 800lbs of nag will need throughout its life to know its place in the pecking order, telling it that it a bad boy and Santa isn't coming isn't going to work, each little infraction of the bond of mutual respect must be met with appropriate disapproval. Bad manners and trying it on need to be addressed or you end up with the equivalent of the screaming little sh1te in the sweet aisle of your favourite supermarket. If sternly waved fingers and verbal threats worked on horses herd discipline would be very different to the kicking, biting, barging and trampling seen in mixed sex, mixed age horses kept together.
Many a great horse from a loving disciplined home with no vices due to constant small disciplinary actions as one would raise a child has become a living nightmare when allowed into the hands of someone unable or unwilling to continue the almost imperceptible little corrections which kept it on course.
A slap or a kick (how hard can you kick a horse above your own hip) from a human is naught compared to a bite or kick from another horse but it is often enough to startle a horse childishly throwing its weight around and may be just enough to prevent those actions in the future.
I honestly hope the lady in the article sues the holy heck from the authorities that sacked her, goes back to work and then sues them again for constructive dismissal. Policy made by bunny huggers with spoilt brats in tow has no place in determining what was best at the time for the woman or for the long term welfare of the horse. I'd rather my child was taught by someone with a great horse than a rotten, sniveling, undisciplined child.
Many a great horse from a loving disciplined home with no vices due to constant small disciplinary actions as one would raise a child has become a living nightmare when allowed into the hands of someone unable or unwilling to continue the almost imperceptible little corrections which kept it on course.
A slap or a kick (how hard can you kick a horse above your own hip) from a human is naught compared to a bite or kick from another horse but it is often enough to startle a horse childishly throwing its weight around and may be just enough to prevent those actions in the future.
I honestly hope the lady in the article sues the holy heck from the authorities that sacked her, goes back to work and then sues them again for constructive dismissal. Policy made by bunny huggers with spoilt brats in tow has no place in determining what was best at the time for the woman or for the long term welfare of the horse. I'd rather my child was taught by someone with a great horse than a rotten, sniveling, undisciplined child.
tullah
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- Location
- Linconshire
So it’s all about our thoughts then
icanshootwell
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- Location
- Ross-on-wye
Shooting is if your a good shot, a slow and painful death if your not. At least with dogs the fox dies quickly, like it or not it's survival of the fittest.
Until they start digging them up. The presence of terrier men and dogs kind of ruins that argument.
Foxcover
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Exactly
‘The fox has a fair chance to get away’, well no they don’t because if they go to ground we’ll dig them up and shoot them with a pistol.
There is no justification in the 21st century to make a game out of chasing foxes to exhaustion and ripping them to bits, and if you’ve ever been hunting you’ll know that it isn’t always a quick kill.
I’m a farrier, my mother used to hunt, but I still don’t agree with it.
There’s lots of urban foxes now too, so should gangs of chavs be allowed to chase them through council estates with packs of Staffordshire Bull Terriers?!
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- Scottish Borders
I couldn't care less about hunting but as a young boy I occasionally went with my dad when he followed the local hunt in his old daihatsu rust bucket. I have seen many foxes getting chased and the one thing that always struck me was how completely unfazed they seemed when hound dog was on their tail. I remember seeing one fox jump over a dyke and stop when the hounds flew over and kept going across the stubble field. Foxy had trotted off down the back of the dyke! Anybody else witnessed the same and agree? I also saw a fox get caught one day and boy was it a quick end. Ripped to pieces it was indeed!