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d williams · Jan 18, 2022

neilo said:
They move a few tonnes at a time though. The carbon footprint of moving stuff around the globe by ship is supposed to be very small indeed, per kg shipped.

Flying it in would be different obviously, and has been done on occasion.

I watched a program once about Australiaian wine being shipped to Britain in bladders and cost more in transport in this country then it did to get here from Australia

Hilly · Jan 18, 2022

d williams said:
I watched a program once about Australiaian wine being shipped to Britain in bladders and cost more in transport in this country then it did to get here from Australia

And that makes it ok then ? What did it cost ? Money ?

muleman · Jan 18, 2022

Store cattle in Bentham seem a decent trade, up to 1300 for 10 mnth blue heifers

d williams · Jan 18, 2022

Hilly said:
And that makes it ok then ? What did it cost ? Money ?

Your putting words in my mouth
It was a few years ago can’t remember exact cost but shipping is one of the cheapest modes of transport of tons moved per costs

Hilly · Jan 18, 2022

d williams said:
Your putting words in my mouth
It was a few years ago can’t remember exact cost but shipping is one of the cheapest modes of transport of tons moved per costs

Yes but what im hinting at is their is also an environmental cost and a human cost , ok import NZ lamb but the human cost is brittish farmer is poorer the whole chain in U.K. is poorer , an imported product is money exported ! It’s morally wrong to ship things around the world unless really needed.

neilo · Jan 18, 2022

d williams said:
Your putting words in my mouth
It was a few years ago can’t remember exact cost but shipping is one of the cheapest modes of transport of tons moved per costs

Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.

z.man · Jan 18, 2022

muleman said:
Store cattle in Bentham seem a decent trade, up to 1300 for 10 mnth blue heifersView attachment 1010783

That one reminds me of something.........can’t quite put my finger on it though

Celt83 · Jan 18, 2022

z.man said:
That one reminds me of something.........can’t quite put my finger on it though

It's almost as if someone has drawn a portrait on the screen!

Poorbuthappy · Jan 18, 2022

d williams said:
I watched a program once about Australiaian wine being shipped to Britain in bladders and cost more in transport in this country then it did to get here from Australia

Maybe so, but it's still additional cost - environmental and monetary. Dont forget that Aus or NZ lamb still has to be transported around on land to get to the boat, and from the boat to the shop.

Alias · Jan 18, 2022

neilo said:
Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.

I was in France a few years and they said that the French consumer would always pay a premium for French lamb over British which at the time was £1/kg. And I have a feeling that supermarkets are not allowed to sell food as a loss leader, or is it just that they can’t sell it below cost of production. In Britain both government and consumer want food at the lowest cost, and it will be an uphill struggle to change that

muleman · Jan 18, 2022

z.man said:
That one reminds me of something.........can’t quite put my finger on it though

The photo was just for illustration purposes!

muleman · Jan 18, 2022

Celt83 said:
It's almost as if someone has drawn a portrait on the screen!

Think it was knocked down to @casper74 !

thorpe · Jan 18, 2022

z.man said:
That one reminds me of something.........can’t quite put my finger on it though

i hope elliot and watkins aint watching hes going in£20 bids!

exmoorromney · Jan 18, 2022

The lambs arent born and reared on the boats though they are hauled many miles from NZ farms to be killed and then to the docks to be loaded, those miles need to be taken into the calculations for cost and carbon just the same as the miles travelled in this country!

neilo said:
Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.

d williams · Jan 18, 2022

Poorbuthappy said:
Maybe so, but it's still additional cost - environmental and monetary. Dont forget that Aus or NZ lamb still has to be transported around on land to get to the boat, and from the boat to the shop.

Yes your right but whatever the products or produce is it needs to get to its markets
I totally Agree with you that if there’s product already where it’s needed then that should be used first

Hilly · Jan 18, 2022

d williams said:
Yes your right but whatever the products or produce is it needs to get to its markets
I totally Agree with you that if there’s product already where it’s needed then that should be used first

Norwegians don’t import until they run out , they look after their own farmers first .

Northern territory · Jan 18, 2022

Hilly said:
Na just barstewards , the total
barstewards are the barstewards in this country that get in on contracts with them to sh!t on everyone else they are the total barstewards, selfish short sighted desperate pansies I didn’t write pansies .

Dead right. I think this whole benchmarking thing just plays more into their hands.

Hilly · Jan 18, 2022

Northern territory said:
Dead right. I think this whole benchmarking thing just plays more into their hands.

They all fall for it , you just have to laugh at them thick as mince, no business acumen which has I blame subsidy for , protects them that shouldn’t be farming .

Celt83 · Jan 18, 2022

Hilly said:
Norwegians don’t import until they run out , they look after their own farmers first .

The way it should be.

johnb5555 · Jan 18, 2022

Boydvalley said:
what is the cost of the lamb on the boats. Lamb is expensive down under Plus shipping. Hopefully put a high base but probably take the froth off the market.

I'm sure I read it used to be 6pkg to transport it on a ship

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