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They move a few tonnes at a time though.;) The carbon footprint of moving stuff around the globe by ship is supposed to be very small indeed, per kg shipped.

Flying it in would be different obviously, and has been done on occasion.
I watched a program once about Australiaian wine being shipped to Britain in bladders and cost more in transport in this country then it did to get here from Australia
 

muleman

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Store cattle in Bentham seem a decent trade, up to 1300 for 10 mnth blue heifers
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Hilly

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Your putting words in my mouth
It was a few years ago can’t remember exact cost but shipping is one of the cheapest modes of transport of tons moved per costs
Yes but what im hinting at is their is also an environmental cost and a human cost , ok import NZ lamb but the human cost is brittish farmer is poorer the whole chain in U.K. is poorer , an imported product is money exported ! It’s morally wrong to ship things around the world unless really needed.
 

neilo

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Your putting words in my mouth
It was a few years ago can’t remember exact cost but shipping is one of the cheapest modes of transport of tons moved per costs

Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Devon
I watched a program once about Australiaian wine being shipped to Britain in bladders and cost more in transport in this country then it did to get here from Australia
Maybe so, but it's still additional cost - environmental and monetary. Dont forget that Aus or NZ lamb still has to be transported around on land to get to the boat, and from the boat to the shop.
 

Alias

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Lancashire
Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.
I was in France a few years and they said that the French consumer would always pay a premium for French lamb over British which at the time was £1/kg. And I have a feeling that supermarkets are not allowed to sell food as a loss leader, or is it just that they can’t sell it below cost of production. In Britain both government and consumer want food at the lowest cost, and it will be an uphill struggle to change that
 
The lambs arent born and reared on the boats though they are hauled many miles from NZ farms to be killed and then to the docks to be loaded, those miles need to be taken into the calculations for cost and carbon just the same as the miles travelled in this country!
Exactly this. Jump up and down about them importing to undercut domestic supply, or to manipulate the market, but it is not a problem of shipping expense or carbon footprint.

Of course, if their customers valued UK product over lower priced imported product, then they wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe we should be increasing our levies to fund AHDB as much as Beef & Lamb NZ are? ....tin hat on.
 
Maybe so, but it's still additional cost - environmental and monetary. Dont forget that Aus or NZ lamb still has to be transported around on land to get to the boat, and from the boat to the shop.
Yes your right but whatever the products or produce is it needs to get to its markets
I totally Agree with you that if there’s product already where it’s needed then that should be used first
 

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