I agree, animal cruelty is a state of mind, and habit. There are times when short term pain for long-term gain is required, often during lambing or calving, foot treatment etc.
Definitely wouldn't be able to produce current quantities, so that requires a change in consumption. And prices would definitely need to rise. So we would need to find plant based alternatives for protein as part of the solution anyway. Obviously the price of food is a political issue. If the living wage was in place then the price of food would be less of an issue and it would have a knock on beneficial effect.
Animal rights campaigners, activists and anyone with an eating disorder/ religion is welcome here. I will find them some work to do with livestock to help their understanding of the real world provided they accept that I will be filming them.
Where (geographically)are we going to get all the ethically grown plant
If my local supermarket shelves are anything to go by there is no demand. Impressionable sorts, usually young and trendy or old hippy types apart.
Human waste as nutrition source for our food scares me.
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Soon any byres with cows will be a thing of the past.Agreed. I was on an ex dairy farm a while ago and the farmer was talkkmg about when they had alot of cows tied up in the byre , nice and warm and plenty staff they used to groom the cows most days like horses , greatall gone now sadly .
Sadly that is not the case
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I agree but we can't be sure about the cow suffering despite what you say , the cow we saw looked like a cow down with milk fever , the vet was busy when the guy spoke to him , its not totally clear what was said , and it's not always clear cut if to put a cow down or not , it's given treatments to keep it alive and make it better , you have to make a judgement if it's going to work or not
Sure, you're absolutely correct. No vegan athletes, bodybuilders or strongmen. You might want to try spelling my name correctly, or are you too drowsy from all the tryptophan?Don't worry Speclkle will be off to bed soon ....vegans don't have enough energy to make a whole day .
some farmers apply sludge cake to their land, however, human waste seems to be very high in contaminants like heavy metals (which preclude it's application to some land) and I am not sure about the residues of hormones (from the pill) and drugs such as MDMA etc but certainly there is also a problem with micro plastics.
I don't fit any of those criteria. Does that mean that I am not welcome?
We do this already though. Except that we very inefficiently send it through our water system and then separate it out. Plastics are another issue and I'd like to see where the data is that shows that animal products are not also affected by that issue. Certainly we know that the 'heavy metals' issue that is being touted in here is very much an issue with fish.
You will get a lot more runoff from bare winter soils than grazed fields
