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- Yorkshire
And mostly by individuals who have an opinion on a subject rather than real life experience and rely on Google for their data!
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Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Both, and outside .
- Location
- Herefordshire
Less and less people watch the BBC these days.
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- Northumberland
I studied Ecology and Conservation as part of a biology degree ~25 years ago. Except in the two exceptional habitats of coral reefs and rainforests, habitats are most diverse when they have a little bit of disturbance occasionally. This is what you’re doing when you cut your hay meadows or control the weeds in your water meadows. A bit of scrubby rewilded land will be poorer in terms of its diversity but hey; it probably gives folks somewhere to walk their dogs
Castle Farm
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Daily Mail running a story on line ATM. Interesting to see the comments on the story.
soya milk thats good for the planet then!
toquark
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Not necessarily. Prices would increase and the proportion of spend would increase a little, but currently we pay farmers £3.5bn a year in subsidies. The true cost of food to the consumer is still there, its just hidden in the tax burden.
Why? Plant based alternatives currently involve massive food miles, massive levels of processing and massive levels of soil tillage, all releasing huge quantities of carbon in the process. Pasture based systems are largely carbon neutral and have the benefit of being able to do it right here. Most of western and upland Britain is unsuitable for growing crops, but it can grow grass extremely well.
Do you think that by giving people another £2 or £3 per hour that they are going to start making "informed" choices on their food origins? You won't find many prepared to eat ethically whilst living in material poverty
farmed livstock are fed the by-product soya is used in the human food industry.
they didnt just plant the seed with you did they , youve had the whole packet!
borderterribles
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- Location
- South Shropshire
Getting back to the programme, did anyone else wonder why the "cameraman " seemed to spend his time observing the various scenarios without assisting. Surely in that situation, something would have been said by the others, wouldn't it? Unless of course , they were in on what he was up to?
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- Ceredigion
I don't know how people can eat processed vegan food , their health will suffer long term , Nothing against those who choose not to eat meat and dairy but eat healthy whatever you choose
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- Yorkshire
As I've said before I have no issues with peoples food choices, I'm just not a fan of the narrative. I know three people, my Dad big one of them that became quite ill from vegan, vegetarian diets. My dad was hospitalised due to it and was put on a very rich protein diet as part of his recovery. He was in better health after that than he'd been for years, read into that what you will.
Well, that comment makes no sense at all. I'm presuming it's some sort of veiled insult, because you don't like the information I've provided. Which incidentally I had no intention of even getting into, but I don't like to see others posting misinformation unchallenged.
Thank you to those that have actually engaged honestly instead of taking out your temper about the program (which I had nothing to do with) and the issues it raises (which unfortunately you are going to have to deal with regardless) on me.
That's definitely a conversation in vegan circles. I do in the main eat healthily with just an occasional sub. I've always been a big veggie eater though anyway. I do a lot of stews etc. I might well be one of the most lucrative customers for spring greens, carrots, potatoes and onions
(sorry, I know they are the cheaper veggies).Re how healthy meat subs are, it does vary. All natural things as we know are not healthy and all 'natural' things are comprised of chemicals. There's definitely a conversation to be had around which aspects of prepackaged foods are unhealthy and which aren't. My understanding so far is that most of the concerns are around high levels of vegetable oils (inflammation / imbalance of omega 3 and 6) and salt.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
May I ask where you're based? Sorry if you've stated elsewhereThat's definitely a conversation in vegan circles. I do in the main eat healthily with just an occasional sub. I've always been a big veggie eater though anyway. I do a lot of stews etc. I might well be one of the most lucrative customers for spring greens, carrots, potatoes and onions
Re how healthy meat subs are, it does vary. All natural things as we know are not healthy and all 'natural' things are comprised of chemicals. There's definitely a conversation to be had around which aspects of prepackaged foods are unhealthy and which aren't. My understanding so far is that most of the concerns are around high levels of vegetable oils (inflammation / imbalance of omega 3 and 6) and salt.
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- Ceredigion
I'm not going down the what's heathy , the Google army on here will on my like a butcher s dog , but the 16 % coconut oil in meat substitute s and all that oil in oat milk would frighen the life out of my heart specialistThat's definitely a conversation in vegan circles. I do in the main eat healthily with just an occasional sub. I've always been a big veggie eater though anyway. I do a lot of stews etc. I might well be one of the most lucrative customers for spring greens, carrots, potatoes and onions
Re how healthy meat subs are, it does vary. All natural things as we know are not healthy and all 'natural' things are comprised of chemicals. There's definitely a conversation to be had around which aspects of prepackaged foods are unhealthy and which aren't. My understanding so far is that most of the concerns are around high levels of vegetable oils (inflammation / imbalance of omega 3 and 6) and salt.
UK. South east (currently)
I understand that the nature of farming land is very different around the country and that certain areas are definitely more conducive to certain types of farming and I think this is one of the only real arguments for animal farming in certain areas (though still I can't see that it trumps other ethical considerations). It's definitely not an easy profession to be in.
I don't get my nutritional information from google. I get it from university studies, new scientist, BDA etc. And I'm pretty clued up on it in general. It's actually an area of interest in terms of change of profession.
As for the 16% coconut oil in meat subs, that must be one specific product, it most certainly isn't the majority.
Princess Pooper
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- East Mids
Not everyone has a telehandler with a large grain bucket. We only have a foreloader tractor and hip lifter. And yes, once moved, they often get up on their own and are back into the herd, depends why they went down.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Those foods do more damage to the local enviroment aroundThat's definitely a conversation in vegan circles. I do in the main eat healthily with just an occasional sub. I've always been a big veggie eater though anyway. I do a lot of stews etc. I might well be one of the most lucrative customers for spring greens, carrots, potatoes and onions
here than anything else.