Will Putin invade ?

ollie989898 · Feb 26, 2022

BrianV said:
Really because if I was a Ukrainian watching him posing I might feel differently & would be really interested to know whether your average Ukranian trying to get your wife & kids to safety are as impressed as Western media looking for a hero!

He is there risking his own life. Neighbouring countries are providing assistance and allowing free passage. So long as these people are out of active conflict areas and given shelter they will be a heck of a lot safer than trying to shelter in place.

neilo · Feb 26, 2022

BrianV said:
You might think what else would you expect a remainer to say, after all Brexiteers felt their country was very important to them.

So why the struggle with comprehending the idea that citizens might wish to fight for their country when invaded? :scratchhead:

will l · Feb 26, 2022

JohnGalway said:
Calm down, you're going to wear yourself out with all your running away.

No invading army of conscript soldiers running on vodka are ever going to win against millions of well armed motivated patriotic resistants fighting on home turf. It is just the carnage of innocent civilians that is difficult too accept,

BrianV · Feb 26, 2022

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neilo said:
So why the struggle with comprehending the idea that citizens might wish to fight for their country when invaded?

Simply because without the help of the West they are going to be slaughtered by a lunatic who can’t afford to lose face!

neilo · Feb 26, 2022

ollie989898 said:
I understood there was a properly outfitted WW2 bunker in London underground which was used extensively by the government?

No doubt, but the locals all knew (unsurprisingly) when everyone’s cars rolled up to Blockley.

The country house was owned by the Spencer Churchill family at the time.

JohnGalway · Feb 26, 2022

will l said:
No invading army of conscript soldiers running on vodka are ever going to win against millions of well armed motivated patriotic resistants fighting on home turf. It is just the carnage of innocent civilians that is difficult too accept,

We'll see should they begin to use the thermobaric rockets they're moving up. It's surprising how, inept, the Russians have been so far. I still believe it's a mistake to believe they won't learn and adapt. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. The civilian deaths are on the invaders. If it was my country, I'd be lining up for my AK47. This BS peddled by some on here that Putin "would be happy if only" he'd be given the world is the sickening part.

ollie989898 · Feb 26, 2022

From what I have seen, the country is being littered by vehicles out of fuel, smashed convoys and captured or killed Russians. This could be turning into another Afghanistan for Russia. That war basically started the fall of the USSR.

ollie989898 · Feb 26, 2022

JohnGalway said:
We'll see should they begin to use the thermobaric rockets they're moving up. It's surprising how, inept, the Russians have been so far. I still believe it's a mistake to believe they won't learn and adapt. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. The civilian deaths are on the invaders. If it was my country, I'd be lining up for my AK47. This BS peddled by some on here that Putin "would be happy if only" he'd be given the world is the sickening part.

Those rockets are nothing new, they go boom but they are unguided, dumb and short ranged by modern standards.

neilo · Feb 26, 2022

BrianV said:
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Simply because without the help of the West they are going to be slaughtered by a lunatic who can’t afford to lose face!

So you’d roll over, giving up that hard earned sovereignty, if the Russians took Plymouth and stormed North?

ollie989898 · Feb 26, 2022

Maybe these two are orbiting over Romania and giving Ukrainian pilots juice as they need it?

le bon paysan · Feb 26, 2022

neilo said:
No doubt, but the locals all knew (unsurprisingly) when everyone’s cars rolled up to Blockley. The country house was owned by the Spencer Churchill family at the time.

The family paid for the electric supply for the village I was told.

ollie989898 · Feb 26, 2022

neilo said:
So you’d roll over, giving up that hard earned sovereignty, if the Russians took Plymouth and stormed North?

Nah, to be fair, he can have Plymouth. If my experience is anything to go by, you can go there for a night and up losing three days.

Tubbylew · Feb 26, 2022

Crofter64 said:
Unfortunately there isn’t that much to destroy except homes. The infrastructure in Ukraine is in shambles - needs a serious revamp no matter what.

Nothing that being left in peace to decide their own destiny for 50 years in row wouldn't cure.

hally · Feb 26, 2022

neilo said:
So you’d roll over, giving up that hard earned sovereignty, if the Russians took Plymouth and stormed North?

I was thinking the south would collapse pretty quickly but when they got to shap they would have a real fight on their hands✌

Bury the Trash · Feb 27, 2022

oil barron said:
Hang in there tonight Kiev. The night is darkest before the dawn but you will get there. Don’t give that Russian barsteward an inch.

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ollie989898 · Feb 27, 2022

hally said:
I was thinking the south would collapse pretty quickly but when they got to shap they would have a real fight on their hands✌

Not so fast- Putin could land unopposed in Plymouth but to get North he has to cross the Somerset levels and then the dreaded Mendips to pass through which is gonna take more than a smile if he doesn't have an emergency sausage roll to distract the locals with.

The levels alone are so wet you couldn't swim across em. What good will his tanks be?

BrianV · Feb 27, 2022

neilo said:
So you’d roll over, giving up that hard earned sovereignty, if the Russians took Plymouth and stormed North?

What exactly do you expect the Ukranians to end up with when this is all over & the West have lost interest?

Bury the Trash · Feb 27, 2022

ollie989898 said:
Not so fast- Putin could land unopposed in Plymouth but to get North he has to cross the Somerset levels and then the dreaded Mendips to pass through which is gonna take more than a smile if he doesn't have an emergency sausage roll to distract the locals with.

The levels alone are so wet you couldn't swim across em. What good will his tanks be?

and if that didn't stop them ,the traffic in Bristol would for sure

ollie989898 · Feb 27, 2022

Bury the Trash said:
and if that didn't stop them ,the traffic in Bristol would for sure

I only ever got stuck in traffic in Bristol once. I too decided to sell my diesel for vodka.

Henarar · Feb 27, 2022

Bury the Trash said:
and if that didn't stop them ,the traffic in Bristol would for sure

A night on the cider in the Blackdown hills would sort them out before they got to Bristol

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