Ideal time for all farmers with any common sense to tell farm assurance schemes to go to hell.

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joep83

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Anyone not in an nvz is now required to have 4 months slurry storage for red tractor, even though environment agency does not require this for non nvz pre 1991 built stores . Something to be aware of , anyone preparing for an inspection needs to make sure there written measurements are large enough to avoid a non compliance.
I would happily tell them to get f**ked if I wasn't milking cows
 

Raider112

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Heard a good one today, which really sums up Dead Tractor's pedantic pettiness.

Family beef farm, had an inspection, and was picked up as the dog wormer hadn't been written up in the meds book. The dog had been wormed - just not recorded.
Fast forward a week or so, and after a clear TB test, farmer takes a load of store cattle to market, with a sticker on his entry form. Market staff then inform him that his membership has been withdrawn, because he hadn't wormed the farm dog.

The 'discussion' is ongoing, I believe.

It used to be 'have you wormed the cat?>' but now apparently it's the dawg. This despite the farms around here being laced with footpaths, travesed by all shapes and sizes of dogs, many of which may not have been treated.
:rolleyes:
Doesn't matter if you haven't wormed the dog as long as you write it down that you did.

Just a paper chase exercise.
 

Bury the Trash

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It certainly does matter that you worm your dogs regularly, for their health and others health
and how can everything that we do be remembered off the top of yer head ? that s nothing to do with fa. just good practice and common sense.


No, its all the extra froth, unuseful things that has grown on there schemes over the years that destroys peoples motivation, interest and mental well being. All to keep some twits who donothing practical in a nice comfy lifestyle,wasteing the Worlds scant resources.:mad:
 
Doesn't matter if you haven't wormed the dog as long as you write it down that you did.

Just a paper chase exercise.

worm the dog, for their health and your cattle’s. But remember, it’s a hanging offence if the act is not recorded.
They asked me about the cat, the only means of keeping vermin down here . Just told him it could run faster than me.

many years ago, I remember writing, had Leachman’s million head of cattle all had ear tags inserted and each one a FSH - and had he wormed his cat? 😂 Nowt changes.

It certainly does matter that you worm your dogs regularly, for their health and others health
and how can everything that we do be remembered off the top of yer head ? that s nothing to do with fa. just good practice and common sense.
Agree but to not give this farm chance to rectify a paper record error, and cancel his membership, is OTT , imho.

I shall be checking our Meds book…. For dog and cat. Wot else have I missed for this year? 😎
 

Wombat

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worm the dog, for their health and your cattle’s. But remember, it’s a hanging offence if the act is not recorded.


many years ago, I remember writing, had Leachman’s million head of cattle all had ear tags inserted and each one a FSH - and had he wormed his cat? 😂 Nowt changes.


Agree but to not give this farm chance to rectify a paper record error, and cancel his membership, is OTT , imho.

I shall be checking our Meds book…. For dog and cat. Wot else have I missed for this year? 😎
I never put the dogs worm date in the med books just have them in the calendar and that always has been good enough for them
 
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ajd132

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The other thing that strikes me about RT is that it’s actually driven or built around corporate agricultural. If you’d suggested 40 years ago, that we should tip grain in the open off the combine to await collection in a heap open to the rain for a few days you’d have been considered insane. But now that billy big balls is farming half the county, all the sheds are converted into holiday cottages and there just aren’t enough hours or lorries to keep up with his mega combine then suddenly tipping grain in the open becomes acceptable, and it’s fine with RT. Well if that’s the sort of thing that RT will accept, then what’s the point in a grain storage standard at all? It’s quite obvious to me that they have adjusted their “standard” to suit whatever their biggest members actually do in practice. Doesn’t really concern how these big businesses store their grain. Their lookout if it goes wrong. But don’t come round here saying a beetle could get under that door when the neighbour has a heap out in the field.
Nothing wrong with tipping outside for a couple days if its going to go into an incredibly high standard grain store and be processed on intake.
a far better option than trying to keep some 1950’s heap of rubbish grainstore going that can intake 10t/hour so you inevitably end up dumping loads on the floor anyway and faff around for weeks on end trying to make the thing work.
I’ve done both.
 

Raider112

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It certainly does matter that you worm your dogs regularly, for their health and others health
and how can everything that we do be remembered off the top of yer head ? that s nothing to do with fa. just good practice and common sense.


No, its all the extra froth, unuseful things that has grown on there schemes over the years that destroys peoples motivation, interest and mental well being. All to keep some twits who donothing practical in a nice comfy lifestyle,wasteing the Worlds scant resources.:mad:
I didn't mean it's not important, I meant as a means of passing the inspection
 

Bury the Trash

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worm the dog, for their health and your cattle’s. But remember, it’s a hanging offence if the act is not recorded.


many years ago, I remember writing, had Leachman’s million head of cattle all had ear tags inserted and each one a FSH - and had he wormed his cat? 😂 Nowt changes.


Agree but to not give this farm chance to rectify a paper record error, and cancel his membership, is OTT , imho.

I shall be checking our Meds book…. For dog and cat. Wot else have I missed for this year? 😎
As it happens youve just reminded me that ours need doing again :giggle: , looked it up, amoungst other more pertinent info its got the batch number and how much i've got left in stock, (y):rolleyes: arnt computers brilliant (long as there isnt a power cut :ROFLMAO::cautious:
 
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Heard a good one today, which really sums up Dead Tractor's pedantic pettiness.

Family beef farm, had an inspection, and was picked up as the dog wormer hadn't been written up in the meds book. The dog had been wormed - just not recorded.
Fast forward a week or so, and after a clear TB test, farmer takes a load of store cattle to market, with a sticker on his entry form. Market staff then inform him that his membership has been withdrawn, because he hadn't wormed the farm dog.

The 'discussion' is ongoing, I believe.

It used to be 'have you wormed the cat?>' but now apparently it's the dawg. This despite the farms around here being laced with footpaths, travesed by all shapes and sizes of dogs, many of which may not have been treated.
:rolleyes:
I do not have the time of day for RT @matthew but the above story is a complete load of BS!

If the farm had not wormed their dog they would be given a non compliance notice and 28 days ( and not 1 week ) to worm the dog and send in conformation they had done it.

And even if they were removed from RT the market staff would only be able to see they are no longer a member and not the reason/s they are no longer a RT member!
 
As above, we are on the brink of worldwide food shortage, if not even worse.

What better time can there ever be for all farmers with any common sense to tell Red Tractor and all other farm assurance rackets to go to hell?

As ever of course there will be some who won’t, and they will take the extra penny and try and sell others down the river. But this time there has to be enough producers with plain common sense to realise that this is a golden opportunity to take, to once and for all destroy this ridiculous self perpetuating bureaucratic nonsense that is farm assurance.

Don’t worry by this time next year when the food shortages kick in farm assurance won’t exist because they’ll be worldwide panic happening.
 
I do not have the time of day for RT @matthew but the above story is a complete load of BS!

If the farm had not wormed their dog they would be given a non compliance notice and 28 days ( and not 1 week ) to worm the dog and send in conformation they had done it.

And even if they were removed from RT the market staff would only be able to see they are no longer a member and not the reason/s they are no longer a RT member!

I would tend to agree with you. But the tale was told to me by the farmer’s wife. So not second or third hand. And she was pretty angry.
 
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I would tend to agree with you. But the tale was told to me by the farmer’s wife. So not second or third hand. And she was pretty angry.
More to it than she has told you!

Either they got kicked out for a major non compliance or they did not bother to send in the conformation within the 28 days!
 

VIP

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I've cancelled the direct debit I'll follow a load of milling wheat an see where it goes if I have too
You are about to cost a haulier a days work, your merchant a 3 hour headache. It’s coming back to the farm with a big bill…and if it doesn’t your merchant might have been lucky enough to have a non assured slot to tip it off. I’ll bet you £100 it doesn’t end up in a flour mill and you say who the merchant is….in fact make it £500!
 
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