I agree - but why bother ? cost ? how else can you get the Kcal / nutrition for £30 ish per week ......... My point being a £30 a go cowboy steaks are not an affordable option for all
Global Wheat Shortage due to Ukraine War
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I agree - but why bother ? cost ? how else can you get the Kcal / nutrition for £30 ish per week ......... My point being a £30 a go cowboy steaks are not an affordable option for all
Wow you really have swallowed the vegan textbook.no VERY specific, basic physics in fact, when you convert one energy source to another you always incur losses
here is a link fir you, it uses much less efficient numbers than I posted in fact
Feed required to produce one kilogram of meat or dairy product
Quantity of animal feed required to produce one kilogram of meat, egg or milk product. This is measured as dry matter feed in kilograms per kilogram of edible weight output.ourworldindata.org
ollie989898
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As I said, I only drink the stuff because it is portable calories and it will keep me going on shift. It's low GI and contains a shed load of fibre which is good for your guts. It tastes ok but there is no way I would want to exist solely on the stuff.
Good luck trying to exist on 1200 kcal a day then. Given you’re advocating it as a method for poor people to feed themselves…… just sayin…..
true you would need more than just that but its a lot of foundation........... cheap and easy
so for you it solves a time problem, a problem a lot of people have in modern society, for others the problem maybe Kcal control to loose or gain weight, for some its solve a affordability problem etc
good bossiness offer solutions to problems
ollie989898
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It is a time/portability and shelf life thing for me. I take it to work in powder form and then mix it with milk. Boom- about 800 calories.
How do they get the pea protein and rice protein out then if it’s simply grinding? Genuine question. Also, because you’ve ground the ingredients finely you’re then digesting and absorbing the glucose faster than otherwise so will become hungrier again sooner, which you will know of course.
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As a society we have never had so much spare time it's just that we use it for non-essential tasks
But it isn’t cheaper than buying and eating the ingredients is it? And it isn’t a complete food, despite what they claim. Which is kinda my point. I do get the point you were trying to make a few pages back though, I did try to resist but couldn’t in the end.
ollie989898
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I do not know what exact processes they use but to me the powder looks pretty homogenous in particle size. I'm not sure if entire peas/soya beans are used or what but I presume it is possible.
There is not a huge amount of sugar/glucose in huel from memory which is why they can legitimately claim it is low GI. Of course there are carbs and protein and fats. I think the way that huel works is that the significant fibre fraction in it slows down the rate at which is winds its way through your system.
Your body is able to make glucose from carbs, fats or protein and convert all of these into fat for storage as necessary, so the actual ratio of fat, carbs or protein is sort of academic. What you should try to avoid is shed loads of sugar entering your blood in short periods of time.
there are cheaper ways of buying meat you know
ollie989898
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A shift is 7am until 9pm. It takes me around an hour to get to and from the place. I require about 8 hours of sleep a night.
Bramble
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Working Time Directive not apply, or are you self employed?
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Pigs and poultry have a far better feed conversion rate, than cattle, however, if the feed wheat is produced with Nitrogen fertliser, that uses gas to be made, where as pasture fed livestock doesn't (clover fixed N), I wonder if we are pricing pigs/poultry & wheat too cheaply and conversely over pricing pasture fed livestock. And what is the Carbon footprint of the respective foods?
Yup. The process of grinding it finely will still speed up the digestion and absorption of the starch component though, in spite of the presence of plenty of fibre. This is basic stuff for livestock farmers. I was referring to the fact btw that pea protein and brown rice protein are specifically mentioned as ingredients, rather than peas or brown rice. That makes me think there’s some pre-processing going on in order to extract that, no? Maybe they’ve got a deal with James Cameron or Bill Gates that says "non-processed honest guv"?
Also, there’s a whole host of specified ingredients, way too many to mention, that can only be described as processed. And then there’s the "nutritionally complete" claim directly from their website. The mind boggles with that one.
Not arguing with what you posted, just thought you would be well-informed on it which is why I asked.
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remember, fruit is good for you, however fruit juice gives a big insulin response, both have the same ingredients, just one has been juiced.
ollie989898
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The (human at least) gut can't absorb starch directly- starch molecules are huge and far too big.
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what do you do?
This is how we end up with the sort of daft argument normally reserved for the vegans. I’m not sure there’s anywhere for this to go given that what Clive posted about conversion ratios etc (ie that OWID link) was utterly devoid of anything approaching context. Those figures are mainly made up of foods that are completely inedible to humans and so aren’t a credible starting point. Best just to go with the spirit of what he was trying to say rather than get bogged down in vegan misinformation.