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- Derbyshire
probably digesting the full 3675 pages so any comments made can be with confidence.
New IPCC Climate Change Mitigation Report coming monday...
- Thread starter Chris F
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Christ Alive, reading TS-95 there’s all sorts going on there, ranging from the usual banging your head against a brick wall to a glimmer of hope.
The well-used phrase "hard to abate residual emissions" is an admission that we’ve really got our work cut out. "CCU applied to fossil CO2 do not count as removal technologies" well yes quite, agreed, but tell that to the carbon traders. Then there’s the usual sh1tshow of complete ignorance around methane from agriculture. Even just the fact they’re talking emissions and not warming around this shows where we are here. Pretty dreadful stuff all told.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
ollie989898
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Any talk of greenhouse gas emissions that discounts or fails to even include nuclear power as a realistic option is merely hot air.
SilliamWhale
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All this crap from IPCC is pretty much why I ignore almost every climate change story. Its all rubbish.
I do agree there is an efficiency to moving away from fossil fuels and we will do it within about 100 years so in that respect its good (we need cheap energy if we want poorer people to have better lives) but so much of all the other stuff is complete cack.
I do agree there is an efficiency to moving away from fossil fuels and we will do it within about 100 years so in that respect its good (we need cheap energy if we want poorer people to have better lives) but so much of all the other stuff is complete cack.
ollie989898
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The reality is that a scary proportion of the worlds poorest do not have access to electricity yet. Others do not have the same 2000 KWh per capita use that is needed for an economy to really flourish- the poorest economies of the world just aren't big enough to reach the level of prosperity needed. We can talk about climate change all we want but unless serious measures are taken, you will see about 10 times as much coal power in use as there is today within 80 years. It is cheap and people want energy/electricity and governments won't listen to the West when the consider that the West has already emitted a shed load of carbon in the past 100 years.
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- North Norfolk
In the post #7 where I outlined the steps we have taken, every step has either saved cost or increased profit, so whether you treat it as gospel or rubbish, taking action will help your business.
ollie989898
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You have a commendable approach but it is based around anaerobic digestion and I'm not so sure the environmental case for AD is so easily open and shut. For yourself, where you are big consumers of electricity and heat, it makes total sense. But for standalone AD units, you're talking deliberately generating methane (a very potent greenhouse gas) and often hydrogen sulphide as well (a potent pollutant in it's own right) and then burning burning it in an engine- more CO2/NOx and SOx emissions. If it is environmentally sound for AD to be used then surely incinerating our municipal waste to generate power (and using district heating where possible) is also just as sound?
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- North Norfolk
Not just the AD, but things like getting calf feed in bulk rather than 20kg plastic sacks, clamp silage rather than round bales, and similar all makes long term savings
primmiemoo
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- Devon
But plastic sacks aren't just single use. A ton of lamb creep comes here in bags every year ~ and those bags are then used as containers until they have so many holes they go into recycling. I wonder ~ could they be somehow processed on farm to yield fuel for a chainsaw to cut logs with, instead of being transported to the recycling centre? 
ollie989898
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But plastic sacks aren't just single use. A ton of lamb creep comes here in bags every year ~ and those bags are then used as containers until they have so many holes they go into recycling. I wonder ~ could they be somehow processed on farm to yield fuel for a chainsaw to cut logs with, instead of being transported to the recycling centre?
Pyrolysis but then you might as well just incinerate them and create electricity that way.
"Contested and relevant literature is still limited"
Shorthand for this is starting to get awkward?
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Professor on Farming Today on radio this morning IPCC member and based in Bristol stating farming is responsible for 22% of climate change emissions and no amount of other land use offsetting could help other industries ....................................................
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
And this does not leave the Oil and Gas industry much wriggle room:
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
It was a she and I've no idea. Be available to listen on BBC Sounds
SilliamWhale
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I don't have a problem with a of plastic use. Its at the end of the hydrocarbon cycle and is expensive to recycle. Obviously it can be in mutual interest to use less plastic sometimes ie more efficient but if it can be incinerated for heat or power afterwards its not all bad.