CopperBeech
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That’s a fair idea but would be concerned about lambing issues maybe on our system. It’s a genuine issue
Terminals for shedders
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some pure texels lamb out doors , I’d rather brag about the unassisted 4-5kg twins than 9kg single born at 2am
Fair enough. Type and feed has an impact.
Yeah I would like to try a charlais sheddder and it could be quiet easy if you start with the tight fleeces!
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- Montgomeryshire
As I mentioned previously, all my Exlanas went to a high index Texel this time. To date, the lambs have been coming out fine, inheriting the horrible (from a carcass POV) narrow/pointy shoulders of the Exlana.
Still had plenty of losses from mother’s that really couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their own lambs, but no issues with lambing ease. Quite a few have come as short, woolly (think Welsh) ‘throwback’ types, but also a few that look like half decent Texel crosses.
You’ll be pleased to hear that some of my Exlanas have been quite calm, attentive mothers this year. I am recording the IDs of all those that happily come within Psion range while I’m tagging/ringing their lambs, with a view that they ‘might’ escape the chop. I’m up to 8 currently.
The tw*t of a one that sprinted 200 yds across the paddock away from her lamb because she had some cleansings flapping behind her didn’t make that list. Neither has the mother of the rejected twin I picked up this evening, or the ones that had two dead lambs that I really couldn’t be arsed having a rodeo round the paddocks to catch.
I’m hoping the cull trade keeps up…
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- Dumfries & Galloway
More like utter shock at the man in question crossing a line I thought he would never dare, considering his allegiances...
I guess he had to see sense, eventually
CopperBeech
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All I can say is thank f*ck you got all the sh!t onesAs I mentioned previously, all my Exlanas went to a high index Texel this time. To date, the lambs have been coming out fine, inheriting the horrible (from a carcass POV) narrow/pointy shoulders of the Exlana.
Still had plenty of losses from mother’s that really couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their own lambs, but no issues with lambing ease. Quite a few have come as short, woolly (think Welsh) ‘throwback’ types, but also a few that look like half decent Texel crosses.
You’ll be pleased to hear that some of my Exlanas have been quite calm, attentive mothers this year. I am recording the IDs of all those that happily come within Psion range while I’m tagging/ringing their lambs, with a view that they ‘might’ escape the chop. I’m up to 8 currently.
The tw*t of a one that sprinted 200 yds across the paddock away from her lamb because she had some cleansings flapping behind her didn’t make that list. Neither has the mother of the rejected twin I picked up this evening, or the ones that had two dead lambs that I really couldn’t be arsed having a rodeo round the paddocks to catch.
I’m hoping the cull trade keeps up…
must be why the rest of us have it so easy with them There are folk managing unshepherded lambing with them, so I bet they’re REALLY glad you bought up all the duffers.PS ..... maybe I’ll come pick my rams in future
you don’t seem to have the eye to pick good sheep 
Aspiring Peasants
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Does unshepherded lambing meet welfare requirements in this country?
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- Montgomeryshire
More like utter shock at the man in question crossing a line I thought he would never dare, considering his allegiances...
I guess he had to see sense, eventually
I've always liked a bit of Texel blood in the female side, just not too much. My Highlanders have plenty of Texel blood in them, I have dabbled with a Lleyn (a Texel X by another name) ram on some and a NZ Texel on others, and the original base flock was getting towards pure Texel going back some.
They just leave a lot to be desired as a terminal, ime.
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- Montgomeryshire
Lambing 'should' just be a supervising job, if everything is going well?
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
I made a bet with myself who would say that. You were in my top three
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- Montgomeryshire
All I can say is thank f*ck you got all the sh!t ones
PS ..... maybe I’ll come pick my rams in future
I certainly don't. This morning, I had a pure Roussin ewe trying to steal a lamb off one of the few Exlanas with two at foot.
I need to stop trying new things!
CopperBeech
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I am available to act as you buyer. Payment in black tea no sugar.I certainly don't. This morning, I had a pure Roussin ewe trying to steal a lamb off one of the few Exlanas with two at foot.
I need to stop trying new things!
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- Dumfries & Galloway
I've always liked a bit of Texel blood in the female side, just not too much. My Highlanders have plenty of Texel blood in them, I have dabbled with a Lleyn (a Texel X by another name) ram on some and a NZ Texel on others, and the original base flock was getting towards pure Texel going back some.
They just leave a lot to be desired as a terminal, ime.
That wee bit Texel in the ewes is dynamite when you use inferior tups right enough
- Location
- North wales
No I’ve been told it’s taking an ewe to the vet at 3am for a C section then coming back home to another that needs a trip , your overalls covered in blood and your eyes blood shot like looking like you’ve been on a 2 week bender.
Aspiring Peasants
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Didn't answer the questionI made a bet with myself who would say that. You were in my top three
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Legal requirement is to check stock in fields once a day (every other day on hills IIRC)... so that is the minimal 'unshepherded' you can do.
So basically you could leave them to get on with it, go round once a day as the basic legal requirement and pick up any dead. As long as you see to/treat anything obvious having a problem when you check them, you're meeting the welfare standards.
CopperBeech
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I wouldn’t know .... or really care.
Lambing unsupervised with minimal losses ....... vs lambing supervised in a shed with sheep housed in unnatural environments, fed imported soya, given routine anti biotics ...... and still dying of being over sized for the vanity of big lambs or through disease to dirty conditions .....
hmmmm
welfare hey .....
CopperBeech
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No mate it’s winching lambs out of ewes and taking photos of themNo I’ve been told it’s taking an ewe to the vet at 3am for a C section then coming back home to another that needs a trip , your overalls covered in blood and your eyes blood shot like looking like you’ve been on a 2 week bender.
Have to say I like them a lot, lamb outdoors check 3 times a day, if there is any problems the ewe gets a red tag and any female of spring get the same, Half of the flock are still previously bought in sheep, which are more likely to be the ones that give bother, but your still talking 1 maybe 2 %, , I find no difference even when crossed to a woolly breed.,, that being said I give the ewes that lamb a wide berth , only approach the problem ones, I hate moving a ewe of her lambing spot,As I mentioned previously, all my Exlanas went to a high index Texel this time. To date, the lambs have been coming out fine, inheriting the horrible (from a carcass POV) narrow/pointy shoulders of the Exlana.
Still had plenty of losses from mother’s that really couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their own lambs, but no issues with lambing ease. Quite a few have come as short, woolly (think Welsh) ‘throwback’ types, but also a few that look like half decent Texel crosses.
You’ll be pleased to hear that some of my Exlanas have been quite calm, attentive mothers this year. I am recording the IDs of all those that happily come within Psion range while I’m tagging/ringing their lambs, with a view that they ‘might’ escape the chop. I’m up to 8 currently.
The tw*t of a one that sprinted 200 yds across the paddock away from her lamb because she had some cleansings flapping behind her didn’t make that list. Neither has the mother of the rejected twin I picked up this evening, or the ones that had two dead lambs that I really couldn’t be arsed having a rodeo round the paddocks to catch.
I’m hoping the cull trade keeps up…
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