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ConfusedIt’s only organic that has issues conventional sales through……
ConfusedIt’s only organic that has issues conventional sales through……
the only people that really know how much milk, is going to be produced, is the people producing, we know how good/bad our fodder supplies are, how much fert we can buy/use, how we might change our system, etc, but no body ever asks us. Its all guess work, educated guess work.How reliable is the data, and what difference does it make to the farmer? They basically drew a forecast line which follows last years production and production looks to be starting off below forecast and last years level. Now I'm no expert, but with meal hitting £400 a ton and fert at £750- £1000 depending on what day of the week it is, I could probably have predicted that. Really goes to show how little these 'industry experts' know.
I don't think @dinderleat can have seen any news about dover in the last 10 days.Confused
That's unfortunately simply not true.the only people that really know how much milk, is going to be produced, is the people producing, we know how good/bad our fodder supplies are, how much fert we can buy/use, how we might change our system, etc, but no body ever asks us. Its all guess work, educated guess work.
To us, its obvious production is going to drop, not only here, but across the globe, fert is pretty well a global price, even a 5% drop, will have a big effect, Ukraine will further reduce stocks, chuck in a weather event, in the main corn belts, and panic stations. We know food availability is tight, if it wasn't, the nearly decent prices for cull, and prime stock, would be much lower, its called competition, a new word, for s/mkts perhaps ?
Meat was on the news as an issue, would milk have priority?I don't think @dinderleat can have seen any news about dover in the last 10 days.
However there are other ferries and other routes to powder towers I would trust Arla to have a plan b and c and d to avoid lost milk.
You'd like to think so !the only people that really know how much milk, is going to be produced, is the people producing
There are more ferry ports than doverMeat was on the news as an issue, would milk have priority?
Depends who's factories have had the breakdowns.
Fishguard isn't much use for France , unless you hijack itThere are more ferry ports than dover
As long as your prepared to pay below minimum wage the ferry business itself might be attractive. If you could process the milk at sea and ignore all environmental regulations and access to cheap labour maybe a powder ship might be the option.Fishguard isn't much use for France , unless you hijack it
I was being facetiousI don't think @dinderleat can have seen any news about dover in the last 10 days.
However there are other ferries and other routes to powder towers I would trust Arla to have a plan b and c and d to avoid lost milk.
Fishguard isn't much use for France , unless you hijack it
in other words, its simple guess work, nobody knows what will happen tomorrow, weather, hard luck, disease or simply less production, for any number of reasons, but farmers will know before the processors. Most of us have to submit a forecast, 12 months, with 3 monthly updates, fair enough, but its all done on predicted yields, any number of things could upset it, and probably do, the farmer is always the first to know.That's unfortunately simply not true.
Asking farmers how much milk they will produce has proven to be the worst way of predicting milk intake .
Running models with some of the factors you mention is far more accurate.
But products not offered
Every commodity was back in price. But some regional products weren't offered.But products not offered
down 10ppl, a wild guess ! You can be pleasantly surprised of anything better than that !Anyone fancy to hazard a guess what Saputo will do for the June price?
43pAnyone fancy to hazard a guess what Saputo will do for the June price?
Not sure that’s true with barbers already promising 42p plus for June.We won't know until Arla announce and how much pressure it applies.
If Arla don't keep moving the rest will probably decide they have done enough