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Somerset
It's the right price for today's straights.

There is an argument that all bad things have been factored in to today's straights prices and therefore future movements are more likely to be down than up.
Buying is all about leaving a risk your happy with.

If it went up 100 pound a ton it won't cost you more than 10,000 and you've just had a 4 p price rise that you weren't expecting worth probably 28k.

The arable boys fix a margin they can sell wheat and buy fert on same day. Unfortunately we have no idea what are milk price will be if you fix your cake.
It's all about an individual's judgment personally I think now is a buying opportunity as I don't think there's much going to come out of the ukrain in time. I could well be wrong and russia play ball as the west cave in on sanctions.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
It's all about an individual's judgment personally I think now is a buying opportunity as I don't think there's much going to come out of the ukrain in time. I could well be wrong and russia play ball as the west cave in on sanctions.
corn from Ukraine isn't going to happen, this harvest is compromised, infrastructure is fudged, Odessa blockaded by putrid, who may, or may not, let grain out, port loading facilities have to be 'sorted'. Basically any grain that does get out, has to feed people, not cattle. And then, only if putrid actually does agree to do so, and it actually happens. So that's last harvest gone, this one wont be great, and next years will be compromised.
£424 doesn't look a bad price, hearing some of the rumours, and l think we might be phoning around monday, our parlour feeders don't cope with home mix/blend.
But its all really an educated guess, you have to jump in, when you think the price is right, and you are happy at that price. That's the thrill of running your own business. This year, there are plenty of unusual circumstances, affecting prices. But l don't see it going much less than £400, am l right or wrong 🤞:scratchhead:
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Remember these cows are giving three times what your springs are doing😁need some feeding.
I recon for milk price 40ppl+ £400 cake sounds a bargain, with plenty of margin left, especially if top quality cake.
just don't tell the cake rep !
Quality should be checked carefully as well, there's some very cheap fillers out there, that have a reasonable feed value, if the cattle can actually utilise it. I never forgot feather meal, or powdered chicken shite - high in protein, on paper.....
 

Jdunn55

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Top of the range for some spring calvers? You made of cash?
Autumn + summer calvers, springs will be flat rate fed 2kg per day and winter contract runs until end of April.
I start calving mid January so my springs will be fed this cake for the first 3-4 months, during this first 100 days of lactation I want 4000 litres from each cow if I can so they'll need feeding well

Rightly or wrongly, I'm also higher yielding than the average spring calver. Next year anything on 3rd+ lactation that doesn't do 7000l is going as a cull/in-calf

I like high yielding cows, I can look after a cow doing 40l better than I can one who peaks at 20l
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Autumn + summer calvers, springs will be flat rate fed 2kg per day and winter contract runs until end of April.
I start calving mid January so my springs will be fed this cake for the first 3-4 months, during this first 100 days of lactation I want 4000 litres from each cow if I can so they'll need feeding well

Rightly or wrongly, I'm also higher yielding than the average spring calver. Next year anything on 3rd+ lactation that doesn't do 7000l is going as a cull/in-calf

I like high yielding cows, I can look after a cow doing 40l better than I can one who peaks at 20l
must admit, l like high yields, was brought up with them, but sensible enough to know, not to chase high yields just for getting them, it has to be profitable. But the 7,000 litre cow, can be highly profitable, if she stays with you, for 7 or 8 trouble free lactations.
Pretty certain yield is more affected by management, than breeding. We have had very high yields, from xbred, out of sync cows, and some that do sfa.
 
Location
West Wales
I'm tempted to do the same. In fact I really should do the same.
What are you putting in yours?
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The heifer18 in that table but think we pulled some rape out, added soya meaning we could add a bit more energy in again. Was attempting to keep soya out but not going to happen this year!
 
Location
Cornwall
Autumn + summer calvers, springs will be flat rate fed 2kg per day and winter contract runs until end of April.
I start calving mid January so my springs will be fed this cake for the first 3-4 months, during this first 100 days of lactation I want 4000 litres from each cow if I can so they'll need feeding well

Rightly or wrongly, I'm also higher yielding than the average spring calver. Next year anything on 3rd+ lactation that doesn't do 7000l is going as a cull/in-calf

I like high yielding cows, I can look after a cow doing 40l better than I can one who peaks at 20l

Let me know if your going to sell any lower yielding cows. 😉
 

coomoo

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corn from Ukraine isn't going to happen, this harvest is compromised, infrastructure is fudged, Odessa blockaded by putrid, who may, or may not, let grain out, port loading facilities have to be 'sorted'. Basically any grain that does get out, has to feed people, not cattle. And then, only if putrid actually does agree to do so, and it actually happens. So that's last harvest gone, this one wont be great, and next years will be compromised.
£424 doesn't look a bad price, hearing some of the rumours, and l think we might be phoning around monday, our parlour feeders don't cope with home mix/blend.
But its all really an educated guess, you have to jump in, when you think the price is right, and you are happy at that price. That's the thrill of running your own business. This year, there are plenty of unusual circumstances, affecting prices. But l don't see it going much less than £400, am l right or wrong 🤞:scratchhead:
I’ll fix if it starts with a 3, starting with a 4 seems the nuclear option the now for me.
 

In the pit

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
Autumn + summer calvers, springs will be flat rate fed 2kg per day and winter contract runs until end of April.
I start calving mid January so my springs will be fed this cake for the first 3-4 months, during this first 100 days of lactation I want 4000 litres from each cow if I can so they'll need feeding well

Rightly or wrongly, I'm also higher yielding than the average spring calver. Next year anything on 3rd+ lactation that doesn't do 7000l is going as a cull/in-calf

I like high yielding cows, I can look after a cow doing 40l better than I can one who peaks at 20l
No someone who had targets of milk for heifers and cows that if they didn’t reach them they were got rid off
Strange he doesnt milk any more
We’ve had a good dry spring this year ,next year could be totally different cow milk wise
 

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