Beet '22

farmerm · Jan 26, 2023

farmerm said:
Can someone respond to this plank I am banned from twitter…

Its not bee harming when applied as a seed treatment to a none flowering crop

Products such as dog flea and worm treatments are never branded as Bee Killing!!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617608279928221697

Indeed this needs to be flagged to the NFU, the CLA and any other body that is supposed to fight the corner on rural matters…

Devil's advocate · Jan 26, 2023

farmerm said:
Can someone respond to this plank I am banned from twitter…

Its not bee harming when applied as a seed treatment to a none flowering crop

Products such as dog flea and worm treatments are never branded as Bee Killing!!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617608279928221697

Why are you banned from twitter

Totally agree with you of course & cruiser for swedes too.

Flat 10 · Jan 27, 2023

Good to see we now have some transparency on the beet intake criteria for rejection. Good luck to those of you with deliveries still to go. Who’s going to take the yield protection insurance? When you put the numbers in BS own calculator it’s not looking over attractive…..

alomy75 · Jan 28, 2023

Flat 10 said:
Good to see we now have some transparency on the beet intake criteria for rejection. Good luck to those of you with deliveries still to go. Who’s going to take the yield protection insurance? When you put the numbers in BS own calculator it’s not looking over attractive…..

Not me…

Breckland Boy · Jan 28, 2023

Flat 10 said:
Good to see we now have some transparency on the beet intake criteria for rejection. Good luck to those of you with deliveries still to go. Who’s going to take the yield protection insurance? When you put the numbers in BS own calculator it’s not looking over attractive…..

Turned down both cruiser and yield protection.

robbie · Jan 28, 2023

Same here.
Farmers have always taken the risk when growing a crop. I'm fine with that,it's what we do.
What we need is a decent price which makes that risk worth while not countless little schemes.
A fair price and we'll crack on, take the risk and grow beet.....simple!

No neonics here as I want seed on farm asap. I don't think we'll get it anyway and I don't think the reduced rate is worth worrying about anyway.

Laggard · Jan 28, 2023

No neonics on the seed here. Still trying to decide on YP, wish NFUSugar would do an online webinar/talk to discuss. Text message yesterday to say frost insurance even if YP not taken out.

Kam · Jan 31, 2023

BS have decided not to use neonics on rented land unless landlord specifically wants it used.

Flat 10 · Jan 31, 2023

Kam said:
BS have decided not to use neonics on rented land unless landlord specifically wants it used.

Probably sensible on their part. I opted in on 80% of area because IF it is triggered then it will be a very high pressure year.

Hindsight · Jan 31, 2023

Kam said:
BS have decided not to use neonics on rented land unless landlord specifically wants it used.

BS cannot guarentee the following crop restrictions.

robbie · Jan 31, 2023

Laggard said:
No neonics on the seed here. Still trying to decide on YP, wish NFUSugar would do an online webinar/talk to discuss. Text message yesterday to say frost insurance even if YP not taken out.

That would mean them doing something useful for a change.

Mixedupfarmer · Jan 31, 2023

Hindsight said:
BS cannot guarentee the following crop restrictions.

Surely they could write it into the tenancy or cropping licence if they wanted?

Hindsight · Jan 31, 2023

Mixedupfarmer said:
Surely they could write it into the tenancy or cropping licence if they wanted?

I do not have any inside knowledge. Maybe. But although it may be written into a land let agreement there is no guarantee the land provider complies with the restrictions, either by design or error. Be a corporate embarrassment if British Sugar failed to comply with the Neonic restrictions given the political hot potato they are. Can just imagine the Guardian headline. My view.

Mixedupfarmer · Jan 31, 2023

Hindsight said:
I do not have any inside knowledge. Maybe. But although it may be written into a land let agreement there is no guarantee the land provider complies with the restrictions, either by design or error. Be a corporate embarrassment if British Sugar failed to comply with the Neonic restrictions given the political hot potato they are. Can just imagine the Guardian headline. My view.

Fair point, but if it was written into the agreement, the farmer growing the following crops would be liable, not BS.

Hindsight · Jan 31, 2023

Mixedupfarmer said:
Fair point, but if it was written into the agreement, the farmer growing the following crops would be liable, not BS.

Well yes. But I suggest British Sugar and ABF would still be open to vilification in the press and by wildlife organisations etc. So, possibly best to not leave that risk open for what 3 years or so until the individual field restriction expire. And not using it in the growing season also ensures there are no opportunities for anti campaigners to trip up BS. Say with spilt seed or packaging not correctly disposes, for example. But we are in the realms of conjecture. I am making it up as I go along! Your fieldsman might be able to tell you. Cheers.

Suffolk Serf · Feb 4, 2023

I see that you've got some very good news on the quarry front @Breckland Boy. Well done, very pleased for you.

Breckland Boy · Feb 4, 2023

Suffolk Serf said:
I see that you've got some very good news on the quarry front @Breckland Boy. Well done, very pleased for you.

Thanks,
Its been a poor piece of planning from the outset.
Room for an appeal though.

Devil's advocate · Feb 4, 2023

Breckland Boy said:
Thanks,
Its been a poor piece of planning from the outset.
Room for an appeal though.

What are they extracting?

Breckland Boy · Feb 4, 2023

Devil's advocate said:
What are they extracting?

Sand and Gravel,
Been an ongoing saga/ noose round our necks for more than 10 years.

Banana Bar · Feb 5, 2023

Breckland Boy said:
Sand and Gravel,
Been an ongoing saga/ noose round our necks for more than 10 years.

Barnham?

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