Spencer
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- Location
- North West
Boss late to the party as usual…. 
Let’s have a poll on wether to shut the stable door or not..?
Let’s have a poll on wether to shut the stable door or not..?
Livestock farmers unite, we have a PROBLEM!!!!
- Thread starter Bossfarmer
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Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
The farmers have had a few quid over the years mind .
- Location
- Ledbury, Herefordshire
I wouldn't push that analogy too far.
Did objective 1 funding actually improve anything?
- Location
- Fife
Really? I can take you to lots of small pit towns across the north east where the mine closed and some families haven't worked since.
I'm meaning the costs involved in doing the work, buying the materials to qualify and the potential loss of earnings due to it.
No idea but the funding was there if it has a name.
livestock 1
Member
Yes that’s true but I was in a meeting back in the summer allocated monies may sound good but part of that is lost in their staff administering the scheme then there’s our agent fees plus other fees like agronomy and environmental people
I would say that's their choice, plenty jobs going now. I bet they still get their subsidies paid though.
Some did but then you get your bloody great broad brush out lump everyone in together and call everyone Muppets then wonder why they get hacked off with you.
Aspiring Peasants
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- Location
- North Pennines
I share a lot of your opinions on the land based subsidy system and how it rewards the haves more than it rewards the have nots. It should at the very least been capped and subject to stringent rules on how the land was farmed. That said the removal of farm support for food production has already started to take thousands of acres out of agriculture because there are more profitable alternatives land uses. This is not going to be like New Zealand when subsidies were removed in 1984, the UK population density is about twice that of NZ so there is much more pressure for alternative land uses. The farms that don't make a profit before sub would be better doing something else but the direction of travel is non-farming activities not letting someone else farm.
These huge swathes of upland that are being taken out of production would have provided good opportunities for someone like you wanting to do low cost sheep production, but these opportunities are being removed because food production is not being supported.
They are not getting subsidies for their loss making are they ?
can't have that
- Location
- Fife
I agree. We spoke to Brewdog. But their forestry pays much better with the carbon sub.
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
id like to pay staff £3/hr but i cant, why? because the government sets a minimum wage, this is effectively a sub paid for by taxpaying businesses
- Location
- Fife
Jesus Christ you're fücking objectionable.
livestock 1
Member
Minimum wage knackered a lot of things
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
why should they get a guaranteed minimum wage? this is whats driving inflation, farmers should get a guaranteed cost of production price as a minimum, no subs would be needed then
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Don't shop there anyway
Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published
Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.
From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...