Which ones would that be then ? Because as the attached shows, they are working together to screw the primary producer. It's a cartel.
Well done for showing an interest in this, but you're barely scratching the surface by looking at 'fulfillment'.
Tesco to introduce fulfilment fees
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Which ones would that be then ? Because as the attached shows, they are working together to screw the primary producer. It's a cartel.
Well done for showing an interest in this, but you're barely scratching the surface by looking at 'fulfillment'.
Never heard such a saying. Could you explain it please?
"We need to learn from nature. In nature there isn't uniformity, but rather there is diversity. We have allowed our food system to go down a dead end road of ever fewer producers, ever fewer processors and ever fewer retailers. We as an industry have been complicit in this. We acknowledge our failures in supporting a policy of fewer farmers and greater food miles. We will now work with our allies in the environmental and social justice movement to bring about change. We will explain to Government the benefits of a more diverse food system, and lobby hard for the necessary measures"
ritchiekirkland
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Did the Co Op not have its own farms at one point ? Sold them all up as it was cheaper to buy than try and produce it themselves ?
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It is Supermarkets that have brainwashed all of us to believe that price is the most important factor in buying our food. Each fights to have the lowest sale price to gain market share.
No matter how they do this, the base producer is the one to suffer.
Just take as an example the Lamb market since January where they imported much larger quantity of New Zealand lamb and caused a dramatic drop in UK ex farm price.
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I thought it was waitrose.. Perhaps they both did it?
The cartel have learnt from that.
You don't need to be owned by the cartel, to be owned by the cartel.
Bramble
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Sure, although as a dairy/arable farmer I am only a primary producer and we have no direct relationship with a supermarket. Our processors will be the ones being asked to pay these fees, but I guess their extra costs will undoubtedly be passed back to us in the form of reduced prices.
I expect that you will soon have enough replies and great points made by others on this thread to get most farmers feelings about supermarkets. At best they are a necessary evil, we have to have a route to consumers some how but anyone who believes they are in anyway helping farmers is wrong
Supermarkets are really only good at one thing - making money for themselves. Everything else is about window dressing and buying ‘influence’ (through sponsorships, donations, trade memberships) to protect their positions.
Devil's advocate
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The supermarkets are at each others throats so not really a cartel.
But I understand what you mean.
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There's not really much choice of buyers for farm produce, unless you sell direct, which has its own problems.
With costs as they are, it's getting to the stage where it doesn't really matter if we plant a crop or not, you're just buying work
With costs as they are, it's getting to the stage where it doesn't really matter if we plant a crop or not, you're just buying work
Old Boar
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Hang on a minute! My mind is boggling a bit - Tesco are asking the producer to pay them a fee to sell to them, when the farmers have already paid for RT and a host of other legislation to be able to sell to Tesco?
It should be like "luck money" at the mart, Tesco should pay the fulfillment fee to the farmer to thank them for producing food that they sell at a profit. The producers are the ones fulfilling the need.
It should be like "luck money" at the mart, Tesco should pay the fulfillment fee to the farmer to thank them for producing food that they sell at a profit. The producers are the ones fulfilling the need.
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Don't forget to share your thoughts on rt too
I thought buying shelf space for your product has been going on for some years ?
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Think I have read him posting on a similar subject
Think I have read him posting on a similar subject
It appears that Tesco have finally woken up to the reality that it is impossible to make money out of online shopping, the supermarkets have been busily cutting each others throats running vans around for £5 or £10 a drop delivering produce charged at the on the shelf price.
In order to avoid upping the delivery charge or introducing dual pricing they have had the clever idea of getting the supplier to pay, it seems the suggested cost is £0.12 for branded products and £0.05 for unbranded. If you are supplying high value items it may be bearable, but to the supplier of a packet of radishes at £0.50 its a complete liberty.
Tesco are investing huge sums in automated picking equipment for online delivery, someone has got to pay for it.
Likewise Ocado has only made a small profit twice in 20 years, the other 18 are full of red ink, City analysts are starting to suggest that they have lost confidence in the Ocado model and cannot see any profit there ever.
Where Tesco lead others will follow, if neither they nor Ocado (M&S food) are making a profit from online I very much doubt any of the other supermarkets are.
In order to avoid upping the delivery charge or introducing dual pricing they have had the clever idea of getting the supplier to pay, it seems the suggested cost is £0.12 for branded products and £0.05 for unbranded. If you are supplying high value items it may be bearable, but to the supplier of a packet of radishes at £0.50 its a complete liberty.
Tesco are investing huge sums in automated picking equipment for online delivery, someone has got to pay for it.
Likewise Ocado has only made a small profit twice in 20 years, the other 18 are full of red ink, City analysts are starting to suggest that they have lost confidence in the Ocado model and cannot see any profit there ever.
Where Tesco lead others will follow, if neither they nor Ocado (M&S food) are making a profit from online I very much doubt any of the other supermarkets are.
Suffolk Serf
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Anyone who dares to speak out against it will be dumped as a supplier.
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Two side to every story, always best to hear both @Isabella_fish
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Perhaps I'm missing the point, but when I last visited Tesco most of the stuff seemed to be own brand?
So will they charge fulfilment fees just to the minority of branded goods, thereby paving the way to 100% own label in the near future?
Saw that some brands, eg Morning Foods, and Warburtons were delisted by Waitrose - this after Tesco dropped Heinz iirc correctly. I wonder if all supermarkets are at it..
So will they charge fulfilment fees just to the minority of branded goods, thereby paving the way to 100% own label in the near future?
Saw that some brands, eg Morning Foods, and Warburtons were delisted by Waitrose - this after Tesco dropped Heinz iirc correctly. I wonder if all supermarkets are at it..