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At 10.29 pm its more like time to go to sleep
BPS removal, HOW will you replace yours??
- Thread starter Bossfarmer
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At 10.29 pm its more like time to go to sleep
Never trust a politicians promise to anybody!!!!!
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- Northumberland
What has Scotland announced about payments @Bossfarmer ?
The BPS is being phased out over several years but in Scotland your still getting full payments?
The BPS is being phased out over several years but in Scotland your still getting full payments?
Courier
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- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
Nah, if you can survive 5 years without then you are proving to government that you don’t need them ….
How many subsidiaries rely on that 2.5 billion. A lot more than the number of farmers I would bet
that was the case in NZ from what has been said on here
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- Yorks
I don't disagree with your comments there Hindsight. You make a fair point.
If you re-read my post though, you'll see I said "governments"..... plural. I was meaning worldwide governments want affordable food. Look how keen they've been to negotiate the black sea grain corridor.
Agree though, when looking at the UK, DEFRA aren't standing over us with a big stick making us plant wheat.
What will happen post BPS?
I think we've already seen more CS agreements, and rather than a few field corners, bigger chunks of the farm in whole field options. We have 40% of our land in AB15, AB1, AB11, AB9. I think we'll see more of this.
^^^^this means less production, which should mean higher prices for those still producing. £30/t on grain prices covers the BPS, and that's what we can expect if we become a net importer rather than a net exporter.
Grassland farmers. According to Farm Business Survey, generally speaking, net profit equals the BPS payment. Difficult.
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- Yorks
Anyway best get used to it as this is the last year of BPS in England as its decoupled next year which means you won't need the land to get the few crumbs of it that are left. so its a brave new world after that.
I fear Its not the biggest problem facing smallish livestock farms round this neck of the woods at the moment anyway, If they were just going to take the money away and leave us alone it would be ok but they are not.
I fear Its not the biggest problem facing smallish livestock farms round this neck of the woods at the moment anyway, If they were just going to take the money away and leave us alone it would be ok but they are not.
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- Berkshire
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Doesn't matter if we've had since 23rd June 1916 to prepare, what exactly is this preparation you talk of for us in the hills? Do we tell our customers we need more for our stock or tell our suppliers we need their products for less. Other than farming sheep and tourists our options are very limited. Hate the term "farm diversification" no other industry has to diversify into another to make ends meet, to me this isn't preparing for end of bps this would be starting a new business
Couldn’t agree more about diversification, I’m not against it but why prop up the farm, might as well just stop farming and run the diversification.
sometimes the two can go hand in hand
Buggerallbandwidth
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Sorry can't rotate it
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toquark
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Madness, plenty of very productive arable ground in the NE and easter Ross. If JD pull out, watch someone else move in.
Buggerallbandwidth
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Don't worry, buy a British brand.
Never prop up a food producing farm with Diversification.. using diversification of any kind to pay the rent to live in your house is an entirely different proposal. If food production is paying you less than minimum wage per hour on average then you need to diversify out of food production..
toquark
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Never had the sub so won't miss it. But margins on a low-input sheep system are pretty low, if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't do it, if I didn't have a day job I definitely wouldn't do it.
I think therein lies the answer; if you want to farm, find alternative sources of income. If you don't, get out.
I think therein lies the answer; if you want to farm, find alternative sources of income. If you don't, get out.
I wonder what % of UK food is produced by hobbiests?