The majority is caused by livestock manure but they are putting all the onus onto manufactured urea. Which is quite suprising really as they usually love regulating the livestock farmers.
Liquid fert and new urea rules ?
- Thread starter Clive
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yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
just use urea before 31 march
this is the recommended timing when it is likely to be dry in april
on heavier land the optimum timeing of nitrogen application is a very wide window so putting it all on in march is an option
imho using a modern spreader we need to test the spread pattern on the headland setting as well as the field setting
this is the recommended timing when it is likely to be dry in april
on heavier land the optimum timeing of nitrogen application is a very wide window so putting it all on in march is an option
imho using a modern spreader we need to test the spread pattern on the headland setting as well as the field setting
hollister
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- Location
- Alcester, warks
Doesn't apply to foliar application so little and often?
is this actual law now or guideline / RT / cross compliance ?
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I'm still to be convinced you can grow big yields on foliar N
Give the price of N and it environmental impact if it was that simple the legal N max would be much lower than it is and we would all have been doing this a long time ago
Lot of often "wishful thinking and half truths" creeping into the regen ag hardcore these days imo - I have been doing this long enough both successfully and unsuccessfully to spot the difference now
SilliamWhale
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Bad rules need bad record keeping.
Put all the Urea on before April 1st on your records
Put all the Urea on before April 1st on your records
from prices I saw today its going to make a £45 /t cost difference to urea
meanwhile in the Ukraine ..............
I suspect a lot of that will be going on
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
I'd love for someone to tell me how untreated urea applied before January 15th is somehow going to be a volatilisation risk.
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- North Yorkshire
Isn’t that the open season date for applying N fertiliser?
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Could be. It just seems a bizarre way of talking about it.
I've never had ground dry enough to travel on in January before.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Interesting, thanks.
- Location
- Essex
Is it fixing anything or just Minnette doing CF's bidding?
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
Is this new 'ruling' a matter of law and if so, who enforces it? - or is a just a RT requirement that I can just record my last fert application as 31/3?
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- Essex
Don't forget any regulation like that would be strongly opposed by Minnie's non farming members. Food security blah bla blah...
wanton dwarf
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Food insecurity manufacturers.
One thing for certain, the West is going nuts whilst the East laughs it's sock off.
No5
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- South Essex
Last lot of liquid from BFS was described as,
Product: 30-0-0-10SO3 liquid fertiliser nitrosulph contains urease and nitrification inhibitors.
Product: 30-0-0-10SO3 liquid fertiliser nitrosulph contains urease and nitrification inhibitors.
120kgs of liquid N before the April deadline, soil applied (Advice from those like Joel-But not Joel himself-suggest that as the soil is cool, the soil biological activity is low & there will be no significant detrimental effect, and may even serve to 'wake up the biology a bit earlier - A bit like the effect that I seem to have repeatedly seen with grazing cover or combinable crops early (jan/Feb/March) & all the pee and poo that comes with that).
Foliar N thereafter, with nutrition and if you like, fungicides.....Using Brix. Has worked well for a couple of years, but i'm not hard and fast on it across the whole acreage. Haven't seen any statistically significant difference in yields between doing it this way, and conventional soil applied across 3-4 splits to a total of 220-240kgs.....But still too chicken to roll it out across a wider area, and on contracted farms.....No two years are the same etc.
Pretty pee'd off with the conversation about this a couple of months ago with the fert rep - Whom i have a lot of time for. Apparently it will come separately to the liquid fert, so added to the tank when legally required (As others have mentioned). May well push me to do more area with the 120kgs soil, the rest foliar.
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- Essex
What's your total n after the 120kg soil applied?