Red Tractor Enviromental Module

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
RT should negotiate a premium on our behalf !

So you think it should be left up to RT what premium we receive ?

Yes, I know any premium is better than none but just the same, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with RT deciding what it should be if only because up until now they haven’t bothered to negotiate any premium
Yes I get your point on that one, and agree we can’t trust them as far as we can throw them. However in theory this is what they should have done to maintain farmer members and keep us onboard. And any premium must be more than the real cost of membership or its pointless.

However the reason they haven’t bothered to negotiate a premium is because they know just like we do that it isn’t actually possible to do so. Obviously despite this sticking point there still quite happy to relieve us of our money.
 

stroller

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
Once farmers have given their carbon credit away I believe they will be forced to stop ploughing, land cultivating and using artificial fertilisers as these will ultimately be given a carbon score that will be so negative it will be virtually impossible to farm, be carbon neutral or improve your carbon score if you plough, land cultivate or use artificial fertilizer.

so in my opinion, if you do conventional arable farming you are a dying breed… I think it’s time to look for alternative uses for land that is profitable but doesn’t involve growing food
That is the ultimate aim of the great reset, food will be produced in factories powered by renewable clean and therefore good energy using precision fermentation. Hence the war against animal farming, next will be a move to demonise food grown outside as too polluting, factory produced food will give the government control over the population, disagree or protest and you get no food, another reason they want to introduce their own electronic currency, CBDCs (central bank digital currencies)t will give them total control over what you purchase.
 

topground

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Somerset.
Good idea, can’t see a problem in that, it’s certainly not an unreasonable ask either. We collectively pay enough into red tractor so it should just be a simple matter for there top brass to negotiate a premium on our behalf.
It should have been done by them years ago to justify there position in agriculture and would have gained farmers respect and a flood of membership numbers.
Very difficult if not impossible for ‘ the top brass’ at Red Tractor to ‘negotiate’ when they are nothing more than puppets dancing to the strings pulled by their puppet masters the supermarket cartel aka BRC.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Very difficult if not impossible for ‘ the top brass’ at Red Tractor to ‘negotiate’ when they are nothing more than puppets dancing to the strings pulled by their puppet masters the supermarket cartel aka BRC.
Yes your correct and is why there a pointless cost inducing organisation that adds nothing to British Agriculture
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
25% of the working population are in pointless jobs with far too many of them being a drain and obstructing farmers.
Yes and I do wonder if we will ever move on from that scenario?

I do wonder at what point, the tipping point is?

it will come to a point where there isn’t enough people in proper jobs generating enough income to cover the cost of these non jobs? constantly raising taxes and creating red tractor style quangos to remove money out of people pockets isn’t the answer, the people being taxed and quango’d will eventually throw in the towel. Realise there’s an easier way and go looking for a non job.
 

Old apprentice

Member
Arable Farmer
United Nations, IPCC, EU, Reuters, Bloomberg, Bill Gates Foundation, George Soros Open Foundation, most media outlets ... all European governments other than the Eastern old communist countries.

Remember the UK government sees themselves as "Leaders".
To me that's a joke ,cutting good production !!
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire

Open Letter from Christine Tacon to Red Tractor members

Dear Red Tractor Member,
Red Tractor is the subject of much discussion at the moment. As the Chair, I can assure you that we are listening to you and engaging with all our stakeholders to explain, learn, discuss, and find ways to move forward. We understand the pressures facing farmers in all sectors. We want to offer a positive contribution and the views of our members matter to us very much. In the past couple of weeks, we have been having numerous daily conversations about the range of opinions expressed and continue to do so.
Greener Farms Commitment
The Greener Farms Commitment (GFC) is being designed around the first core principle of assurance – to find a common approach which limits the number of demands on farmers. To achieve something which offers this, it was necessary to work with the British Retail Consortium (BRC) and its members to ensure their commitment. Throughout that process we have sought to represent and protect the interests of Red Tractor farmers, which is why our preparatory work last year included trials with twenty-five farms, for example.
In turn, those customer stakeholders have made it very clear how urgent this is. There is a risk they will use alternative, possibly global standards, which will not differentiate British produce from overseas. In some sectors we can already see sustainability marks being required which are adding cost and complexity for farmers.
Involving farmers in the continued development of the GFC is absolutely essential. We had to have an approved framework for a common industry approach before that work could accelerate in a meaningful way. Following the Red Tractor Board’s agreement on that common approach last month, we announced a six month timetable to do more work with farmers and growers, to refine the content of the GFC and consider how it will be practically applied in different sectors.
Last week saw our Technical Advisory Committees discuss the GFC across every sector as part of that work. The process is already giving us a huge amount of valuable feedback. Strong views are being shared on the approach and those conversations continue.
To call out three examples: Whilst the GFC aligns with the Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) in England wherever possible, we need to do more work to ensure this happens as the devolved schemes are developed. We are also focused on important questions about how to incorporate indoor farming operations, and short term rented land.
We will continue to listen carefully to farmers’ feedback and work hard to better understand their point of view. We need to explore every option for achieving as much flexibility as possible for farmers, without diluting the common industry approach. The last several weeks have clearly given us a great deal to consider. The new Development Advisory Panel (DAP), which is being created at the moment, will have a vital role to take full account of the first-hand experience of farmers and we will look for other ways too.
We will continue to answer questions as quickly and openly as we can. For example, quite rightly farmers are concerned about protecting their data. Red Tractor has a clear policy on data sharing – the farmer controls their own data and, as with current systems, nothing is shared without the farmers express permission, which they can withdraw at any time.
I am also aware that much of the concern is about how farmers are recompensed for the overall cost of participating in the GFC. Clearly this is a fundamental question. Will it be paid for by the market, by government incentives or a mix of both? We expect the GFC to align directly with government schemes to enable that funding, wherever possible. Red Tractor has also done cost benefit analyses to understand in detail what costs need to be considered. Ultimately though, the final price paid by the market has to be the result of a commercial negotiation between farmers or growers and their customers.
The GFC is very different from Red Tractor’s core standards – it’s a commitment, a journey for farmers to become more environmentally focussed. It is not pass or fail standards. Farmers upload their plans and actions, as opposed to being physically audited, and the GFC will recognise other programmes and national schemes to prevent duplication. We clearly need to do a better job of explaining what’s intended and how this is different. We will work hard to achieve this.
Red Tractor
This subject has revealed strong feelings across the membership about Red Tractor’s governance which we need to listen to and understand. I want to share my observations as there are some misunderstandings emerging about our organisation and its role.
Ownership
Twenty years ago, British farming was in crisis. A series of food scandals – BSE, salmonella, and foot and mouth – had devastated the industry. People had lost trust in British produce, threatening the very livelihood of our farming industry. The industry came together to restore confidence in British farming and created Red Tractor (or Assured Food Standards (AFS)) as a new business and standard.
The NFU and the farming unions of Ulster and Scotland are joint owners alongside AHDB, Dairy UK and the British Retail Consortium. The owners are obliged to meet once annually at the AGM and their remit is limited to appointing the Chair, passing resolutions to appoint Directors and, where necessary, amending the Articles. Any request for a review of Red Tractor should be considered by the Ownership Body, who would then instruct Red Tractor's Main (AFS) Board as appropriate. The team at Red Tractor would cooperate fully to ensure openness and pace.
The owners have no transactional or funding relationship with Red Tractor and they delegate the running of the organisation to the Red Tractor (AFS) Board. The Red Tractor (AFS) Board, which is responsible for approving the business plan, includes many of the major industry stakeholder bodies and external advisors. The composition, together with those of the Sector Board and Technical Advisory Committees, is available on the Red Tractor website.
Funding
None of the ownership bodies fund Red Tractor. We operate as a not-for-profit organisation with around 30 employees. We raise our income through farmer membership fees, which account for around 40% of total income, and a licence fee charged to processors and packers, for the use of the scheme and the logo. The license fees fund the marketing of the logo and scheme to consumers. The audits are conducted by accredited independent businesses.
Purpose
Our purpose is simple: to provide maximum market access for British farmers at minimum cost by developing common standards that meet the majority of the market’s needs. And we provide competitive advantage by differentiating produce through the consumer-facing logo. Red Tractor is recognised and trusted by consumers more than any other assurance mark in the UK.
Standards
To achieve its purpose Red Tractor develops standards that meet the needs of consumers, and the organisations that supply them, and provide reassurance that food is safe and farmed with care. We continuously balance the needs of the market, with what is viable for farmers and the supply chain. We consider many other influences on the supply chain, including overseas competitors, the work of Government and Devolved Administrations, and other groups that impact shopping criteria and buying decisions. The demands of these stakeholders are evolving, particularly in relation to sustainability.
Red Tractor has become one of the world’s most comprehensive food chain assurance schemes and our logo now appears on more than £15 billion of food and drink every year. The organisation assures every stage of the food chain from farm, transport, markets, processors and packers, right through to retailers and restaurants.
We will continue to listen to your feedback and find ways to work together with our members to improve our partnership.
Yours sincerely,
Christine Tacon
Chair, Red Tractor
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
I fail to see how this "Greener Farms" thing is anything to do with farm assurance. Total b-llocks thats a step too far . FA has been hijacked

Biography​

Christine Tacon has a portfolio career combining her commercial expertise with her understanding of the food chain and the public sector. She is a Chartered Engineer with 12 years experience in sales and marketing of fast moving consumer goods (Mars, Anchor and Vodafone) and ran the Co-operative Group’s farming business, the largest in the UK, for 11 years until 2012. She was awarded a CBE for services to agriculture in 2004.

Register of interests​

Other current positions include:
  • Non-executive director of the AF Group, a co-operative procurement business for agricultural members
  • Chair MDS Limited, a training provider for graduates in the fresh food and produce industry
  • Advisor to Wet Engineering Limited
  • Advisor to Agxiata Limited
  • Chair BBC Rural Affairs Committee
Other public appointments:

With BBC and Mars on her resume its no surprise and a CBE in agriculture for what? Running the business for 10 years until they had to sell it as needed the cash?
 

delilah

Member

Open Letter from Christine Tacon to Red Tractor members

Dear Red Tractor Member,
Red Tractor is the subject of much discussion at the moment. As the Chair, I can assure you that we are listening to you and engaging with all our stakeholders to explain, learn, discuss, and find ways to move forward. We understand the pressures facing farmers in all sectors. We want to offer a positive contribution and the views of our members matter to us very much. In the past couple of weeks, we have been having numerous daily conversations about the range of opinions expressed and continue to do so.
Greener Farms Commitment
The Greener Farms Commitment (GFC) is being designed around the first core principle of assurance – to find a common approach which limits the number of demands on farmers. To achieve something which offers this, it was necessary to work with the British Retail Consortium (BRC) and its members to ensure their commitment. Throughout that process we have sought to represent and protect the interests of Red Tractor farmers, which is why our preparatory work last year included trials with twenty-five farms, for example.
In turn, those customer stakeholders have made it very clear how urgent this is. There is a risk they will use alternative, possibly global standards, which will not differentiate British produce from overseas. In some sectors we can already see sustainability marks being required which are adding cost and complexity for farmers.
Involving farmers in the continued development of the GFC is absolutely essential. We had to have an approved framework for a common industry approach before that work could accelerate in a meaningful way. Following the Red Tractor Board’s agreement on that common approach last month, we announced a six month timetable to do more work with farmers and growers, to refine the content of the GFC and consider how it will be practically applied in different sectors.
Last week saw our Technical Advisory Committees discuss the GFC across every sector as part of that work. The process is already giving us a huge amount of valuable feedback. Strong views are being shared on the approach and those conversations continue.
To call out three examples: Whilst the GFC aligns with the Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) in England wherever possible, we need to do more work to ensure this happens as the devolved schemes are developed. We are also focused on important questions about how to incorporate indoor farming operations, and short term rented land.
We will continue to listen carefully to farmers’ feedback and work hard to better understand their point of view. We need to explore every option for achieving as much flexibility as possible for farmers, without diluting the common industry approach. The last several weeks have clearly given us a great deal to consider. The new Development Advisory Panel (DAP), which is being created at the moment, will have a vital role to take full account of the first-hand experience of farmers and we will look for other ways too.
We will continue to answer questions as quickly and openly as we can. For example, quite rightly farmers are concerned about protecting their data. Red Tractor has a clear policy on data sharing – the farmer controls their own data and, as with current systems, nothing is shared without the farmers express permission, which they can withdraw at any time.
I am also aware that much of the concern is about how farmers are recompensed for the overall cost of participating in the GFC. Clearly this is a fundamental question. Will it be paid for by the market, by government incentives or a mix of both? We expect the GFC to align directly with government schemes to enable that funding, wherever possible. Red Tractor has also done cost benefit analyses to understand in detail what costs need to be considered. Ultimately though, the final price paid by the market has to be the result of a commercial negotiation between farmers or growers and their customers.
The GFC is very different from Red Tractor’s core standards – it’s a commitment, a journey for farmers to become more environmentally focussed. It is not pass or fail standards. Farmers upload their plans and actions, as opposed to being physically audited, and the GFC will recognise other programmes and national schemes to prevent duplication. We clearly need to do a better job of explaining what’s intended and how this is different. We will work hard to achieve this.
Red Tractor
This subject has revealed strong feelings across the membership about Red Tractor’s governance which we need to listen to and understand. I want to share my observations as there are some misunderstandings emerging about our organisation and its role.
Ownership
Twenty years ago, British farming was in crisis. A series of food scandals – BSE, salmonella, and foot and mouth – had devastated the industry. People had lost trust in British produce, threatening the very livelihood of our farming industry. The industry came together to restore confidence in British farming and created Red Tractor (or Assured Food Standards (AFS)) as a new business and standard.
The NFU and the farming unions of Ulster and Scotland are joint owners alongside AHDB, Dairy UK and the British Retail Consortium. The owners are obliged to meet once annually at the AGM and their remit is limited to appointing the Chair, passing resolutions to appoint Directors and, where necessary, amending the Articles. Any request for a review of Red Tractor should be considered by the Ownership Body, who would then instruct Red Tractor's Main (AFS) Board as appropriate. The team at Red Tractor would cooperate fully to ensure openness and pace.
The owners have no transactional or funding relationship with Red Tractor and they delegate the running of the organisation to the Red Tractor (AFS) Board. The Red Tractor (AFS) Board, which is responsible for approving the business plan, includes many of the major industry stakeholder bodies and external advisors. The composition, together with those of the Sector Board and Technical Advisory Committees, is available on the Red Tractor website.
Funding
None of the ownership bodies fund Red Tractor. We operate as a not-for-profit organisation with around 30 employees. We raise our income through farmer membership fees, which account for around 40% of total income, and a licence fee charged to processors and packers, for the use of the scheme and the logo. The license fees fund the marketing of the logo and scheme to consumers. The audits are conducted by accredited independent businesses.
Purpose
Our purpose is simple: to provide maximum market access for British farmers at minimum cost by developing common standards that meet the majority of the market’s needs. And we provide competitive advantage by differentiating produce through the consumer-facing logo. Red Tractor is recognised and trusted by consumers more than any other assurance mark in the UK.
Standards
To achieve its purpose Red Tractor develops standards that meet the needs of consumers, and the organisations that supply them, and provide reassurance that food is safe and farmed with care. We continuously balance the needs of the market, with what is viable for farmers and the supply chain. We consider many other influences on the supply chain, including overseas competitors, the work of Government and Devolved Administrations, and other groups that impact shopping criteria and buying decisions. The demands of these stakeholders are evolving, particularly in relation to sustainability.
Red Tractor has become one of the world’s most comprehensive food chain assurance schemes and our logo now appears on more than £15 billion of food and drink every year. The organisation assures every stage of the food chain from farm, transport, markets, processors and packers, right through to retailers and restaurants.
We will continue to listen to your feedback and find ways to work together with our members to improve our partnership.
Yours sincerely,
Christine Tacon
Chair, Red Tractor

I stopped reading where she says RT /GFC is important to differentiate from imported product. .
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland

Open Letter from Christine Tacon to Red Tractor members

Dear Red Tractor Member,
Red Tractor is the subject of much discussion at the moment. As the Chair, I can assure you that we are listening to you and engaging with all our stakeholders to explain, learn, discuss, and find ways to move forward. We understand the pressures facing farmers in all sectors. We want to offer a positive contribution and the views of our members matter to us very much. In the past couple of weeks, we have been having numerous daily conversations about the range of opinions expressed and continue to do so.
Greener Farms Commitment
The Greener Farms Commitment (GFC) is being designed around the first core principle of assurance – to find a common approach which limits the number of demands on farmers. To achieve something which offers this, it was necessary to work with the British Retail Consortium (BRC) and its members to ensure their commitment. Throughout that process we have sought to represent and protect the interests of Red Tractor farmers, which is why our preparatory work last year included trials with twenty-five farms, for example.
In turn, those customer stakeholders have made it very clear how urgent this is. There is a risk they will use alternative, possibly global standards, which will not differentiate British produce from overseas. In some sectors we can already see sustainability marks being required which are adding cost and complexity for farmers.
Involving farmers in the continued development of the GFC is absolutely essential. We had to have an approved framework for a common industry approach before that work could accelerate in a meaningful way. Following the Red Tractor Board’s agreement on that common approach last month, we announced a six month timetable to do more work with farmers and growers, to refine the content of the GFC and consider how it will be practically applied in different sectors.
Last week saw our Technical Advisory Committees discuss the GFC across every sector as part of that work. The process is already giving us a huge amount of valuable feedback. Strong views are being shared on the approach and those conversations continue.
To call out three examples: Whilst the GFC aligns with the Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) in England wherever possible, we need to do more work to ensure this happens as the devolved schemes are developed. We are also focused on important questions about how to incorporate indoor farming operations, and short term rented land.
We will continue to listen carefully to farmers’ feedback and work hard to better understand their point of view. We need to explore every option for achieving as much flexibility as possible for farmers, without diluting the common industry approach. The last several weeks have clearly given us a great deal to consider. The new Development Advisory Panel (DAP), which is being created at the moment, will have a vital role to take full account of the first-hand experience of farmers and we will look for other ways too.
We will continue to answer questions as quickly and openly as we can. For example, quite rightly farmers are concerned about protecting their data. Red Tractor has a clear policy on data sharing – the farmer controls their own data and, as with current systems, nothing is shared without the farmers express permission, which they can withdraw at any time.
I am also aware that much of the concern is about how farmers are recompensed for the overall cost of participating in the GFC. Clearly this is a fundamental question. Will it be paid for by the market, by government incentives or a mix of both? We expect the GFC to align directly with government schemes to enable that funding, wherever possible. Red Tractor has also done cost benefit analyses to understand in detail what costs need to be considered. Ultimately though, the final price paid by the market has to be the result of a commercial negotiation between farmers or growers and their customers.
The GFC is very different from Red Tractor’s core standards – it’s a commitment, a journey for farmers to become more environmentally focussed. It is not pass or fail standards. Farmers upload their plans and actions, as opposed to being physically audited, and the GFC will recognise other programmes and national schemes to prevent duplication. We clearly need to do a better job of explaining what’s intended and how this is different. We will work hard to achieve this.
Red Tractor
This subject has revealed strong feelings across the membership about Red Tractor’s governance which we need to listen to and understand. I want to share my observations as there are some misunderstandings emerging about our organisation and its role.
Ownership
Twenty years ago, British farming was in crisis. A series of food scandals – BSE, salmonella, and foot and mouth – had devastated the industry. People had lost trust in British produce, threatening the very livelihood of our farming industry. The industry came together to restore confidence in British farming and created Red Tractor (or Assured Food Standards (AFS)) as a new business and standard.
The NFU and the farming unions of Ulster and Scotland are joint owners alongside AHDB, Dairy UK and the British Retail Consortium. The owners are obliged to meet once annually at the AGM and their remit is limited to appointing the Chair, passing resolutions to appoint Directors and, where necessary, amending the Articles. Any request for a review of Red Tractor should be considered by the Ownership Body, who would then instruct Red Tractor's Main (AFS) Board as appropriate. The team at Red Tractor would cooperate fully to ensure openness and pace.
The owners have no transactional or funding relationship with Red Tractor and they delegate the running of the organisation to the Red Tractor (AFS) Board. The Red Tractor (AFS) Board, which is responsible for approving the business plan, includes many of the major industry stakeholder bodies and external advisors. The composition, together with those of the Sector Board and Technical Advisory Committees, is available on the Red Tractor website.
Funding
None of the ownership bodies fund Red Tractor. We operate as a not-for-profit organisation with around 30 employees. We raise our income through farmer membership fees, which account for around 40% of total income, and a licence fee charged to processors and packers, for the use of the scheme and the logo. The license fees fund the marketing of the logo and scheme to consumers. The audits are conducted by accredited independent businesses.
Purpose
Our purpose is simple: to provide maximum market access for British farmers at minimum cost by developing common standards that meet the majority of the market’s needs. And we provide competitive advantage by differentiating produce through the consumer-facing logo. Red Tractor is recognised and trusted by consumers more than any other assurance mark in the UK.
Standards
To achieve its purpose Red Tractor develops standards that meet the needs of consumers, and the organisations that supply them, and provide reassurance that food is safe and farmed with care. We continuously balance the needs of the market, with what is viable for farmers and the supply chain. We consider many other influences on the supply chain, including overseas competitors, the work of Government and Devolved Administrations, and other groups that impact shopping criteria and buying decisions. The demands of these stakeholders are evolving, particularly in relation to sustainability.
Red Tractor has become one of the world’s most comprehensive food chain assurance schemes and our logo now appears on more than £15 billion of food and drink every year. The organisation assures every stage of the food chain from farm, transport, markets, processors and packers, right through to retailers and restaurants.
We will continue to listen to your feedback and find ways to work together with our members to improve our partnership.
Yours sincerely,
Christine Tacon
Chair, Red Tractor
What an absolute load of bull💩.

Seems to say that the farmers will have to meet the added cost of joining GFC by joining SFI🤯
So the news from RT just gets worse; not only do they covet our carbon with envious eyes- they covet the money going in to SFI as well.

Bunch of chancers-sooner they are in the bin the better 🤬
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 107 37.8%
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    Votes: 41 14.5%
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    Votes: 6 2.1%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 4 1.4%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 16 5.7%

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