Red Tractor Enviromental Module

[Cuckoo's nest]

Has anyone read this next load of £hit coming at us from Red Tractor, Way beyond their remit .
Cant find the link can someone help ?

 

[Jdunn55]

I really don't understand why we have red tractor anymore

I have regularish visits from my milk buyer checking the state of the farm and welfare of my stock

Animal health visited this year as we received a complaint, they were more than happy and told me they won't bother coming back as there's little to nothing wrong (I had one lame cow that had been trimmed, block on foot and was receiving pain killers)

Trading standards do ear tags, passports, medicines, dairy and parlour etc

Why exactly do we need red tractor? I can't quite remember what their purpose is.

 

[upnortheast]

Why exactly do we need red tractor? I can't quite remember what their purpose is.

Some people have an empire to build

 

[Cuckoo's nest]

Red Tractor Environment Module

<p><b>Background</b></p> <p>Red Tractor, the key UK agricultural assurance scheme is planning to introduce a new environment module, the Greener Farms Commitment (GFC), as an optional add on to the current scheme. It would cover farmers’ actions on water, waste, biodiversity and soil management...

brc.org.uk

 

[Barleymow]

why don't you all leave its quite simple

 

[Blue.]

why don't you all leave its quite simple

No milk buyer without.

 

[Barleymow]

No milk buyer without.

if everyone left they wold have no choice

 

[Blue.]

if everyone left they wold have no choice

I know,sadly it’s not going to happen.

 

[In the pit]

I believe red tractor came first and then each milk buyer started there own scheme to claim there milk was the best
One standard scheme across all the milk produced in this country is what’s needed

 

[Jdunn55]

I believe red tractor came first and then each milk buyer started there own scheme to claim there milk was the best
One standard scheme across all the milk produced in this country is what’s needed

government run not for profit

 

[Jdunn55]

The only regulations that should be needed are:
- to ensure animal welfare - all animals happy and healthy - how you get there does not matter (eg you dont have to body condition score or have feed plans from nutritionists in place as long as the stock are healthy)
- milk hygiene is good - milk statements and a visual check of the parlour and dairy
- records of medicine, movements, births etc
and thats quite frankly where it should end.

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

I have just had a quick read of the proposed standards for the above scheme. It is very well worded and contains lots of thing that the consumer might wish to see. However, what is not clear is if there will be a premium for such a scheme or will non-compliance mean a discounted price for the farms milk? If a farm meets the requirements of the scheme and there is a retail premium how much of this will reach the farmer? Will imports need to meet the requirements of the scheme? And, if so who would police the imports and who would pay for the scheme to be policed for such imports?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

The only regulations that should be needed are:
- to ensure animal welfare - all animals happy and healthy - how you get there does not matter (eg you dont have to body condition score or have feed plans from nutritionists in place as long as the stock are healthy)
- milk hygiene is good - milk statements and a visual check of the parlour and dairy
- records of medicine, movements, births etc
and thats quite frankly where it should end.

What you have described there is Arlagarden. It's just a shame we have to have red tractor as well (and all the new Arla climate sh!te)

For our Arla garden audit they did 2 mins looking at the parlour and dairy, 5 mins looking at medicine records and then most a day traipsing round the parish because they wanted to see every animal.

 

[Jdunn55]

What you have described there is Arlagarden. It's just a shame we have to have red tractor as well (and all the new Arla climate sh!te)

For our Arla garden audit they did 2 mins looking at the parlour and dairy, 5 mins looking at medicine records and then most a day traipsing round the parish because they wanted to see every animal.

That would be ideal, if like you said you didn't have to do red tractor as well

Instead you've spent all day with Arla and will no doubt have to do the same with red tractor too

 

[frederick]

So there are 16 on the dairy board. 6 are from dairy UK and one purchaser one retailer and one from brc. So 9 votes are from the retailer side and so they can technically make red tractor encompass anything retailers want for free. So this appears to me to already be a way to dilute schemes such as climate check that are trying to commercialize the environmental requirements and get them supplied as standard for no extra cost.

 

[ollie989898]

I believe red tractor came first and then each milk buyer started there own scheme to claim there milk was the best
One standard scheme across all the milk produced in this country is what’s needed

No it is not. Each processor should have their own scheme- which they already have. Some processors make you jump through a lot of hoops and pay you more because of it. Same as if you have better butterfat or protein.

There are still farms out there that should not be in the business of producing food. Why should they get the same milk price as people who have borrowed extensively and run a proper farm?

 

[delilah]

So there are 16 on the dairy board. 6 are from dairy UK and one purchaser one retailer and one from brc. So 9 votes are from the retailer side and so they can technically make red tractor encompass anything retailers want for free. So this appears to me to already be a way to dilute schemes such as climate check that are trying to commercialize the environmental requirements and get them supplied as standard for no extra cost.

It is Arla policy to be 'retailer led'. The BRC is the retailers. What are you complaining about ?

 

[delilah]

what is not clear is if there will be a premium for such a scheme or will non-compliance mean a discounted price for the farms milk?

You need to explain the difference between those two concepts.

 

[SilliamWhale]

So there are 16 on the dairy board. 6 are from dairy UK and one purchaser one retailer and one from brc. So 9 votes are from the retailer side and so they can technically make red tractor encompass anything retailers want for free. So this appears to me to already be a way to dilute schemes such as climate check that are trying to commercialize the environmental requirements and get them supplied as standard for no extra cost.

You forgot to mention half the farmers on the board would be nodding dogs trying to get another gig on another committee as well.

See it in the arable easily. You are not going to get parachuted in if you are awkward. I mean apparently we've got a burglar as head of arable which feels somewhat apt

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/business/21008646.departing-anglia-farmers-chairman-convicted-burglary/&ved=2ahUKEwjdiIK6q-aBAxVBh1wKHcWTBkAQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2wYxzuawt0j5mZ8FrASmGX

 

[frederick]

It is Arla policy to be 'retailer led'. The BRC is the retailers. What are you complaining about ?

We could get stuck in a pointless green discussion. However.
Arla is retailer led and the retailers want climate credentials. Arla much as you disagree is putting steps in place to offer these climate goals and monetize that offering. My point is that if red tractor requires these climate goals the retailer still gets what they want but the ability to monetize it has been removed.

And you are then left with all dairy farmers being forced to do what you desperately disagree with and offer it all up for free.