Hindsight
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That’s not what the rpa told me at a trade show yesterday eveningwhat a joke
So what were you told Sleepeasy. Does seem arbitrary.
AHL2 - Winter Bird Food
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So what were you told Sleepeasy. Does seem arbitrary.
I was told you could plant a cash crop in the spring. Anderson’s were also advising people they could!
Mixedupfarmer
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After summer (July) sown AHl2?
farmerm
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Or August when July is a wash out....
So if this is right, which I believe it is, could I plant continuous spring barley or oats, undersown each May with an interrow seeder planting AlH2 seed to produce bird food during the winter? Becomes the new BPS cash doesn't it?
Wouldn’t combining be a nightmare ?
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I was told I could not establish the legume fallow option by undersowing a spring cereal. Which I thought was harsh tbh.
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That would work if the height difference was adequate.
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We can produce plenty of birdseed here without trying. Fat hen and redshank. Usually a companion crop with spring beans. DD wheat after beans and the birds scrat the fat hen seed up all winter.
I can do all of these options in my normal production rotstion without even trying.
I can do all of these options in my normal production rotstion without even trying.
Hindsight
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Hi Neddy. Provided the aims of AHL2 and can demonstrate such to an RPA inspector should they visit at any stage. Have we concluded yet if flowers during Summer are relevant and required. And I presume provided the plants cut off by the combine header regenerate seed heads for the winter months. Of course an inspector can turn up any time of year, so it may be a date when there is nothing to see anyway. Interesting as if your correct then Double cropping becomes possible. Before this the only double cropping land was the very best silt around Boston.
Hindsight
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Did your adviser (advisers firm) say why not. Doesn't to me seem anything written in spec to say no?
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I suspect because they are pussies and dont want to give any actual "advice" that could come back and bite them on the bum. tbh, the seed is so dear and for me will be in place for 3 years so id rather have it spot on at establishment.
why not ? as long as you achieve aims and it’s not a specificity prohibited action i see no issue
advisors know nothing more than what’s in the guide book ………… rather a waste of £ 36million they handed to agents.
threads like these are more use !
Mixedupfarmer
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Pity we can’t get Janet back to answer a few questions.
Hindsight
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Yes I concurr with that. These threads are useful as leads to general debate about how the option might be deployed. I made an error a couple of weeks ago attending a SFI meeting hoping for more clarification which meant I gave up on going to see a band in London that night. Wished I gone to see the band with my daughter. Hey ho. Now what would be useful is as Mixed Up Farmer says if Janet would forgive us (the collective us) and rejoin answering questions and providing clarity. Or the RPA engage on here. But I can see why neither would be keen. Hey ho. In meantime 'we' are concerned not to overstep the mark and get told off claiming to much, and equally do not want to find out in a couple of years someone else was 'bolder / more ambitious (a favourite phrase of Janet's as I recall) and has worked a wee wheeze. Hey ho.
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Hindsight
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Having pondered a wee while what yield and gross margin are you giving the Spring Barley - is it worth it? Kind land that would drill / tip over in early March and give a reasonable Spring Barley, say 6.5 t/ha then maybe but a lower yield would it be worth it - just be better to go continuous AHL2 with the No insecticide add on and leave it for a couple of years ? No??? Park up the machinery. Readjust the farm??
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Peas?
there is one component of the Kings Universal mix which i sowed in mid July which has genuine seeds in now. I think its Brown Mustard, but will check with Kings tomorrow.
Its going to be a struggle to get seed maturity which seed companies will have to help research. My choices might be
Camelina
Brown mustard
Buckwheat
Naked Oats
Spring rape
certain linseeds