Digital Combinable Crop passports

graham mc · Nov 28, 2023

you can see it now starts off simple

then..... add this add this do this jump this high and oh by the way your paying for this. complain about imports silence

DrWazzock · Nov 28, 2023

Well we should be negotiating shouldn’t we? We will do this if we don’t have to do that. But we sure as hell won’t be doing or paying for both. Who is negotiating digital passports and the RT review on farmers behalf? Or will it just be imposed from ivory towers? Says it’s all really. We seem to have no hard headed commercial representation with teeth.
I agree I wouldn’t cooperate with digital passports without change at RT.

DrWazzock · Nov 28, 2023

It’s a opportunity but as ever it’s drifting by.

graham mc · Nov 28, 2023

whos negotiating on our behalf? theres too much love between the ahdb nfu rt aic etc

they dont want to upset future career paths

Hampton · Nov 28, 2023

Clive said:
could it also maybe offer a no cost assurance solution though ? ie a declaration of production to statutory legal standards

in a digital world surely digital solutions are inevitable ?

@Clive, I’m afraid this is not good news. I understand where you are coming from, but this will and has been hijacked by the AIC etc.
I cannot see anything but extra burden on farmers coming from this

Steevo · Nov 28, 2023

Hampton said:
@Clive, I’m afraid this is not good news. I understand where you are coming from, but this will and has been hijacked by the AIC etc.
I cannot see anything but extra burden on farmers coming from this

Exactly that.

They (AIC, NFU, AHDB etc.) have form. Leopards do not change their spots.

Farmers accepting this would be like turkeys voting for a Christmas.

T C · Nov 28, 2023

Last summer at a SNFU meeting on farm the question was put to the audience and the show of hands was almost unanimously against digital passports.
There was probably in excess of 100,000t represented.
I thought the message was clear and it should be resisted by NFU scotland.

DrWazzock · Nov 28, 2023

So then they just force digital passports on us anyway with no benefit for us whatsoever. What an utter joke these levy takers are.

Flat 10 · Nov 28, 2023

T C said:
Last summer at a SNFU meeting on farm the question was put to the audience and the show of hands was almost unanimously against digital passports.
There was probably in excess of 100,000t represented.
I thought the message was clear and it should be resisted by NFU scotland.

Do you think they will? They haven’t stood up in the RT review.

graham mc · Nov 28, 2023

there will be promises of premiums for low moisture etc

will it ever happen just look at rt and see how that went!!!

Spud · Nov 28, 2023

I have no issue with digital in theory, but on a practical level, what a monumental pita!! Rural broadband and phone signal is an absolute joke. More cost and hassle for us and more value to them. As usual. No thanks!

Breckland Boy · Nov 28, 2023

I would accept a digital passport sent to the load destination before loading but on the day. A simple return email could be sent back to show the lorry driver, the driver will write out the haulage ticket as normal.
Job done.

MrNoo · Nov 28, 2023

The one elephant in the room that no one has mentioned is that of imported grains??? Are they too going to have a digital passport?? No, they'd be lucky to even have a piece of paper. The whole thing is farcical as it is with RT, I cannot even fathom why you are even considering the idea, it adds no value and adds yet more complications.
A lot of us don't have our grain store by our office, a lot don't have signal coverage at our place of work. Why do we need it, we don't.

warksfarmer · Nov 28, 2023

Use the link below to get to the feedback form and submit against this.

Digital Passport 2024 | AHDB

Find out all about going digital.

ahdb.org.uk

zero · Nov 28, 2023

I like how digital passports have been revealed while they thought everyone was sidetracked with rt and the nfu. Is there owt else they've been scheming while folks have been looking the other way?

Clive · Nov 28, 2023

An Gof said:
One of the reasons trade want a digital passport is so that more information on the load can be supplied with each passport. Current system is limited to what can be put on one sheet of A4

Expect to have to submit a whole host of extra information over time if this is implemented for EVERY load.
Remember knowledge and data is power

all that data and more is already being given away (well we actually pay to give it them ! ). to Red Tractor whose data policy allows them to sell it …….. as i expect they already are doing

maybe at least if AHDB control this they would not be able to sell our data to buyers and suppliers

Clive · Nov 28, 2023

warksfarmer said:
Use the link below to get to the feedback form and submit against this.

Digital Passport 2024 | AHDB

Find out all about going digital.

ahdb.org.uk

think a link to this thread would be useful feedback !

SilliamWhale · Nov 28, 2023

Spud said:
I have no issue with digital in theory, but on a practical level, what a monumental pita!! Rural broadband and phone signal is an absolute joke. More cost and hassle for us and more value to them. As usual. No thanks!

I'm against it both in theory and practice.

Luke Cropwalker · Nov 28, 2023

I was very sceptical about this, but I would back Clives' model where a digital passport replaces RT but the whole thing is 100% farmer controlled.

Clive · Nov 28, 2023

Luke Cropwalker said:
but the whole thing is 100% farmer controlled.

this being absolutely key ^^

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